Ya The company is pretty big…5000 employees about 65 offices and I work at the home office. My boss is the CFO so I talk to the higher ups a lot in the executive side…on the engineering side I really do not talk to those guys unless there is an issue financially related. But I see what you are saying we are all just people. Yeah there is a lot of planning from what I can tell but it is still fun to bitch when we are all pissed…even though 90% of us do not have a clue all what is involved.