Paypal rant v. screwing eBay sellers

umm yeah

I did, the entire payment, item and shipping cost is usually sent as one payment :picard:

this is what i was refering to…sorry if i didnt understand what he said, but it seems as he wasnt charging for shipping and was worried about getting jipped

btw

[quote=]
11.3 What happens when a buyer files a Claim, Chargeback, or Reversal?
PayPal will place a temporary hold on the funds in your account to cover the full amount of the Claim, Chargeback, or Reversal. If PayPal determines that the payment is covered by seller protection, we will release the hold and restore your access to the funds.
If the payment is not eligible for seller protection, PayPal will remove the funds from your account and return the payment to the buyer. In addition, you will be responsible for PayPal’s Chargeback Fee, if applicable.[/quote]

that is the buyer doing that to you, not paypal, i have had no problems telling people that i will not ship the item until the money CLEARS aka “completed” into my paypal funds. One guy even sent me a money order from oakland i think, it took a week to get here, he had no problem waiting.

it seems you are just dealing with fggts

in my case it is paypal doing it, trust me

its not a pending e-check

the payment from the buyer was “instant transfer”

paypal seems to think after 9yrs and 337 transactions with them I maybe up to something shady regarding a ebayer with 8 feedback and 1yr with paypal

I am getting my money and canceling my account the next day

This isnt my first complaint about paypal but its my last

"Why are my payments being held?
Payment holds for eBay items are an effort to increase marketplace safety. We hold payments when we suspect a transaction may be risky. Here are the most common instances in which an eBay item payment may be held:
You have been an eBay member for less than 6 months, and you sell an item for more than $100
You have an eBay feedback score of less than 100, and you sell an item for more than $100
You have a buyer dissatisfaction percentage* greater than 5%
You have an average DSR of less than 4.5
You have received fewer than 20 Detailed Seller Ratings in the last 12 months
You are listing your item in a high-risk category such as gift certificates, video games, cell phones, computers, or consumer electronics. "

:gotme: i am under ALL of those things, and paypal has never held my money

nor have they mine, its a new year however and this was my first transaction over $100

paypal changes their rules on a regular basis, I am assuming something changed on 1/1/09 however I am not inclined enough to even look it up

personally its insulting that a company I have done business with for almost a decade treats me like I am a fucking scammer or something

are u a premiere/ business user? if you go over your 500$ limit per month on ur basic account (starting on the anniversary of when u activated ur account), they will hold ur money until u either upgrade or the month ends

I am not sure when all of the new rules came into effect, but I pushed over 5k through my paypal this year and never had a hold.

nice guess try again- I am premiere

trust me when I say I did nothing wrong

then… call them?

hahahahahahaha :roflpicard:

I guess you have never called them before

its fucking worthless

this is on the selling template page now-

Decide how you’d like to be paidAdd or remove options | Get help
Select at least one approved electronic payment method listed below.
Learn more about recent changes to the eBay Accepted Payments Policy.
Some payments may be held in your account to ensure smooth transactions. PayPal will release the hold after 21 days without a buyer dispute, claim, chargeback or other action. The hold may be released earlier if either of the following occurs:
Buyer leaves positive Feedback.
3 days after PayPal confirms item delivery.
Learn more about PayPal’s Holds Policy.

heres the info on eBay forcing sellers to use paypal services-

eBay wants to help ensure that the marketplace offers buyers safer online payment choices.

Enforcement grace period for sellers: Starting October 20, 2008 only permitted payment methods will be displayed in the payment details section of listings. Sellers will need to remove all references to non-permitted payment methods from item descriptions. We know that this is a busy time of year for sellers, so to allow sufficient time to change templates, we will wait until January 15, 2009 before we begin taking action against sellers soliciting non-permitted payment methods within the item description of listings.

Permitted on eBay.com:

Sellers must offer to accept one or more of the following payment choices:

PayPal

Credit or debit card processed through an Internet merchant account

ProPay

Sellers may in addition offer to accept:

Payment upon pickup

For specific categories, sellers may also offer to accept:

Bank-to-bank transfers (also known as bank wire transfers and bank cash transfers)

Checks

Money orders

Any of the following online payment services: Allpay.net, cash2india, CertaPay, Checkfree.com, hyperwallet.com, Moneybookers.com, Nochex.com, Ozpay.biz, Paymate.com.au, XOOM

These payment choices may be offered only for items in the following categories:

Motors > Cars & Trucks

Motors > Motorcycles

Motors > Powersports

Motors > Boats

Motors > Other Vehicles & Trailers

Business & Industrial > Agriculture & Forestry > Tractors & Farm Machinery

Business & Industrial > Construction > Heavy Equipment, Trailers

Business & Industrial > Food Service & Retail > Concession Trailers & Carts

Business & Industrial > Healthcare, Lab & Life Science > Imaging & Aesthetics Equipment

Business & Industrial > Industrial Supply, MRO > Fork Lifts & Other Lifts

Business & Industrial > Manufacturing & Metalworking > Manufacturing Equipment

Business & Industrial > Manufacturing & Metalworking > Metalworking Equipment

Business & Industrial > Office, Printing & Shipping > Commercial Printing Presses

Real Estate

Adult Only

Not permitted on eBay.com

Sellers may not solicit:

Buyers to mail cash.

Buyers to send cash or money orders through instant cash transfer services (non-bank, point-to-point cash transfers) such as Western Union or MoneyGram.

Buyers to mail checks or money orders (except for items in categories specifically permitted above)

Payment through bank-to-bank transfers (except for items in categories specifically permitted above)

Payment through “topping off” of a seller’s pre-paid credit or debit card.

Payment through online payment methods not specifically permitted in this policy.

Payment through payment methods not listed in this policy.

Misleading & Discouraging Payments

Sellers must clearly state the payment methods that they accept and may not include generalized statements soliciting buyers to contact them for additional payment methods.

Sellers who state in their listing that they accept certain payment methods must not selectively offer those payment methods to buyers or discourage buyers from using those payment methods.

This means that sellers must always accept payment from buyers through the payment methods they have selected in their Payment Details section of their listing, including PayPal, and must not act in any way to discourage buyers from paying by these methods.

This policy is not only limited to communications made in listings, but also includes all correspondence between a seller and buyer that relates to an eBay transaction.

Violations of this policy may result in a range of actions including:

Listing cancellation

Forfeit of eBay fees on cancelled listings

Limits on account privileges

Loss of PowerSeller status

Account suspension

I accidentally eBay :frowning: Then PayPal. The whole thing.

UPDATE-

my money is still being held despite the fact my tracking # states the item was delivered days ago…

shoulda used cash2india :lol:

looks like I wont be selling anything on ebay now

X2, only for little things.

I just sold something for $200 and got the money from paypal within a couple days… I don’t see what the big deal is.

Update-

well paypals website was telling me the hold would be released Feb 3rd

The package (tracked on usps.com) has been delivered 3 days

So I called paypal and spent 20 mins on the phone with someone who speaks English as a 4th language

I got the hold released

Now I will withdraw my $$$ and close the account, fuck you paypal

don’t even get me started with paypal policies… it’s a necessary evil with eBay and a borderline monopoly. Almost $2,000 in paypal fees for this past month alone.

that sucks man :tdown:

I WILL NOT sell anything on ebay ever again, due to paypal.

it’s a great tool as a buyer, but as a seller it’s not only frustrating, but it’s also un-necessary to make you jump through all those hoops (especially if you’re verified)