Fortunately I can spell syllable 
I’m an engineer, I don’t have to:wave:
I was pretty sure it was wrong, I was too lazy to check though :mamoru: and wow, upon closer inspection that wasn’t even close…
the dumb in this thread must be contageous
The speed of the plane is not dependent on the speed of the wheels. When the plane hits take off speed it will lift. The wheels and treadmill could be going 800X faster and it wouldn’t matter.
One good ball bust deserves another right?
NO, YOU ARE WRONG. PUT MORE CORRECT THOUGHT INTO IT.:uhh:
At least take 3 minutes and read the link I posted. The engines will create thrust, which will propel the airplane foreword, regardless of what the wheels are touching, just like they magically do when the plane is airborne. :slap:
your right, BUT the conveyor belt is always accelerating with the plane, friction is holding it back, in order for the plane to move, the wheels must sping faster then the belt which they cant since the belt is accelerating with it. If the belt was one speed u would all be right but since its keeping speed with the wheels, ur wrong. thank you. come again
Read back to page 5 or 6 or something and look at my rope analogy.
Someone needs to get…
Model plane
model rocket engine
treadmill
video camera
Maybe you can just visualize it.
Do you think the model rocket engine would not launch the shit out of the model plane?
Do you think the model plane would just sit there?
Maybe when the weather breaks some of the “video” guys will make a little video for us.
- It’s you're
- Now that we’ve covered number 1, You’re wrong
You are W-R-O-N-G.
The plane doesn’t give a shit what the fuck the wheels are doing.
You people are treating it like a car. With a car, the car moves forward as a result of the friction beteen the tires and the road, the force being applied to the wheels (from the engine) is opposed by the friction between the wheel and the road, and the result is your car moving forward.
On the airplane, it doesn’t matter. The plane could be sitting on it’s belly, you’d fire up the engines, and if they made enough thrust, it would overcome it. If the plane couldn’t overcome the friction between the wheels and the treadmill, then how the heck could it ever overcome the friction between the wheels and a stationary runway?
In order to have lift, you need more than thrust. You need the air to flow over the wings. That’s why there are flaps. Without the proper air flow, the plane will be unable to lift.
WRONG … the flaps are there to add ADDITIONAL LIFT, without the flaps the plane will take off, it just needs more runwar to do it
flaps are artificial angle of attack
anyone that says the speed of the wheels has nothing to do with it is absolutely wrong. In order for the plane to have forward movement, the wheels need to spin FASTER then the conveyor belt under them. THIS CANNOT HAPPEN IF THE CONVEYOR BELT STAYS AT THE SAME SPEED!!! as far as im concerned u are all tards. all the thrust is gonna do is try to make the plane move forward, then the conveyor belt will put a force back on it. that force is in the form of friction.
WOW I just read some of this thread, and seriously i cant believe some of that responses. I read the problem when it was posted earlier, clicked yes and left the thread. now it is 10 pages!!! JEBUS
THE PLANE WILL FLY, im not even an engineer and it is obvious.
we dont live in majic never never land man, ur talking about a regular plane, not a majic one that makes some kind of insane amount of thrust to push it on its belly. stop correcting spelling dickhead
i have a model plane
ittakes off without ground speed …
thats answeres the original question …
wow, you are special.
someone call RIT and get them to take my aerospace engineering degree back, it’s obvious that captain remedial physics is smrter than me :roll:
oh man. you do realize that wheels spin, correct? If the wheels were blocks then I could see your point. But they are not. Even with the conveyor matching the wheels speed, it just means that THE WHEELS WILL BE SPINNING INSANELY FAST WHILE THE PLANE IS STILL PROPELLING FORWARD. The jet engine on the car doing a burnout was just to show how irrelevant the wheels become in this situation. I am not wrong.
It’s not spelling, it’s grammar.
You are right, we live in the real world. You on the other hand, don’t seem to.
Hey Brdgenius4
Answer me that.
I think this is the thread that is going to make me heart walter and cry at the same time. WTF im not trying to be a dick, but you people that are trying so hard to prove it will not fly are giving me diarhhea.
Man I love this thread.