Not completely no Steve… I was referring to the fact that combining a huge IM and TB on a stock motor…specifically exhaust…overwhelms the scavenging effect inside the cylinder. Increasing the air coming in, without increasing the ability to evacuate the cylinder does nothing useful. Moreover the stock ECU can only compensate fuel/ignition trims to a limited extent. Go outside those narrow ranges and problems occur. Not being a dick, but trying to get moe people to think on thier own. http://www.team-integra.net/sections/articles/showArticle.asp?ArticleID=4 Packaging is key, not lego building.