POS NEON

Everyone should know this car.

First time shooting a black car, I’m actually quite pleased with myself, and I learned a lot, certain things could be better but some things you just miss when you quickly look at your 3 inch camera screen. Wish I could have done some BA rolling shots like Jim/Dan do, someday I’ll invest in a rig.

There are a few shots that at the time I thought would be fucking epic, that I dropped the ball on and only realized it after I had them up full size on my screen. Anyways hope you enjoy!

http://mfolmsbee.smugmug.com/Cars/Jims-SRT4/i-RqfF2Fm/0/XL/JSRT4-1-XL.jpg

http://mfolmsbee.smugmug.com/Cars/Jims-SRT4/i-B5BV2XV/0/XL/JSRT4-1-2-XL.jpg

http://mfolmsbee.smugmug.com/Cars/Jims-SRT4/i-ZxNNxdG/0/XL/JSRT4-1-10-XL.jpg

http://mfolmsbee.smugmug.com/Cars/Jims-SRT4/i-6h7vHr8/0/XL/JSRT4-1-11-XL.jpg

http://mfolmsbee.smugmug.com/Cars/Jims-SRT4/i-4Sf6jtN/0/XL/JSRT4-1-5-XL.jpg

http://mfolmsbee.smugmug.com/Cars/Jims-SRT4/i-PM9mXLF/0/XL/JSRT4-1-8-XL.jpg

http://mfolmsbee.smugmug.com/Cars/Jims-SRT4/i-74fMp2c/0/XL/JSRT4-1-6-XL.jpg

http://mfolmsbee.smugmug.com/Cars/Jims-SRT4/i-Xf7WR48/0/XL/JSRT4-1-9-XL.jpg

http://mfolmsbee.smugmug.com/Cars/Jims-SRT4/i-FcCvfkm/0/XL/JSRT4-1-4-XL.jpg

http://mfolmsbee.smugmug.com/Cars/Jims-SRT4/i-N4HZ3QZ/0/XL/JSRT4-1-13-XL.jpg

This last one in particular I think could have been a great shot, but not paying attention to the background really ruined it. Unfortunately Im no where near Jim/Dans Caliber when it comes to PS editing, but I always have them to play with in the future as I start playing with more techniques.

http://mfolmsbee.smugmug.com/Cars/Jims-SRT4/i-8JnNFZb/0/XL/JSRT4-1-12-XL.jpg

nice pics except the wheels in the last pic dont look right they look photo shoped:dunno

5th one down is the best IMO. Nice jOb.

Nice work man, he needs to trim those zip ties underneath :lol

See-though trunk is different, I like it.

That was Jims idea, I did not even think about getting his NX bottle :rofl Glad he mentioned it though, I thought it came out kind of cool. Wish i got a bit better of an angle, but meh watcha gonna do

Deff saw this thing pulled over by exit 9 on the northway couple weeks back :confused:

Since you (Shady) asked for my input on the photos:

#1: The garage should be darker and the front should have a small amount of light on it so you can see the “angry face” the car has. Right now my attention is drawn to a Mac Tools logo, propane tank, and an MSD/NX box in the background.

#2: Your highlights are a little blown out on the building and ground. People usually get all worked up if your sky is blown out too but I’ve never really cared too much myself about the sky for an automotive shot. The wheels look a little on the soft side and some detail is lost there as well. The overgrowth of greenery is always tough around abandoned structures, it always seems to jump out at you.

#3: I love the tone and hue of the foreground; the greens don’t grab my attention in the background which is good. I see an awesome spot for a direct side shot in the background against the building right by the graffiti. Wheels look much better in this shot, I can see they’re polished, no distracting reflections on the side of the car either, best shot of the set IMO.

#4: Same as above except some of the greenery along the rear bumper and rear window stick out a little. Great idea for the nitrous bottle.

#5: This should be the front thats in the garage shot. Same lights on, subtle background light in the garage. Overall not a bad shot, has a nice “what you would see coming up behind you feel”.

#6: This appears to be a mild HDR or some type of multi-exposure composite, if not the levels are tweaked a little giving you some colored rings or halos around the lights. Having the front wheels angled in this shot with the car at a less of an angle would look good. Having the wheels angled in a static shot convey that the car is stopped and posed, wheels straight mean “motion” to me. Also with the wheel angled you can get two angles of the wheel in one exposure, showing off the shape of the wheel.

#7: The streetlights give the image a nice depth and no nasty rings around the glow of the streetlights in this shot like the one above. Gives you a nice street race feel with the long straight road.

#8: Slightly less of an angle and turn the wheels to the left. I want to look over the hood and see whats down the road when I look at this shot. Minimal reflections are nice in these shot considering all the streetlights that are around.

#9: Great detail shot, nice shallow DOF, great background hue.

#10: I like how the wheels are exposed , again showing a nice polished finish but the front and rear bumpers get lost into the darkness and Im not crazy about the square of light on the wall or the fade into darkness in the foreground. A little more room on each end of the car wouldn’t hurt. I bet if you strobed the rear wall, ceiling, car, and foreground in separate exposures and put them together it would bring some great detail out of the wall and pavement as well as the car.

#11: Again, great job on minimizing reflections in the paint, the wide angle lens distorts the car a little, but overall looks great. Car is black but not too black where I can’t make out details like door handles.

Keep shooting, definitely not a bad set at all (no JDM angles, thank god). No image will ever be perfect in everyones eyes, another person may pick out different things than I did. More or so lately I haven’t given a rats-ass on what anyones opinion is and just shoot for myself and if it looks good to me. I could tear apart my own photos and I have some where I ask myself “WTF were you thinking?!” still to this day. Best way to shoot is to zone out, not have another thought in your head other than what you are trying to create.

Good god Jim, I was expecting just a few little comments or 1-2 big things that stood out that could be done better, but I seriously appreciate you going that much into it for me, you dident have to but its much appreciated.

As for #1, my original thought was to just do that picture as is, I did not want a lot of detail on the car, I wanted just the lit garage and the car to be barely made out as like a “teaser” I wasnt expecting to touch the photos when I got hom ast night and all this morning but I just could not help myself. I am going to take another one like this when I get a chance and try to get rid the god awful lights in the windshield that I completely overlooked at the time. We were out for 4 hours I was tired :lol

#2 I agree it is blown out, and it does not do the wheels justice at all, I actually liked it at the time last night when I edited it, but I do know blown out details like that is a no no to a lot of people

As far as the wheels being cranked, jim asked me a couple times if I wanted him to crank them over for me, i dont know why I dident, I guess in my head at the time i felt like it was a big no no

With #10 I purposly wanted the background to be dark and wanted a bit of the vignetting. To be honest, in the time I spent looking at that one to decide if i really wanted to post it, I have no fucking idea how I missed the “square” of light, Ill have to fix that if I can… Don’t know how I missed that. Im actually really proud of that shot, because trying to fuck with strobes and a black car is a PITA. Its not perfect, and it could have been done better but im pretty happy with it.

Again, thank you… Helped me realize some things I missed and something I can look back on and remember next time I go out!

Looking at #10 I bet you could clone stamp the background and make it all lit on the wall since its a repetitive background. Even that little bit may balance out the rest of the shot too.

Updated pic #10 to get rid of that square of light I missed :facepalm

A side by side

Glad Jim pointed that out, amazing how a couple small changes that take 2 seconds to do can make a world of difference

http://mfolmsbee.smugmug.com/Cars/Jims-SRT4/i-6WC9KPZ/0/X2/Untitled-1-X2.jpg

I know that car, its still looking good!

Pictures are pretty damn good IMO and nice work with the one above

Looks good man 3 and 4 both came out great. What was used for lighting on the side shot? Keep it up, thanks for sharing.

2 Sunpak Flashes, no umbrella/light box… Tried dicking with the umbrellas but with his car it just kept making HUGE hot spots, where as when I tested with my fit the night before it worked perfectly. Its still not perfect but not to bad IMO

I would have used a 3rd flash which would have allowed me too position the other two how I wanted to originally and have some fill in light in the spots they were missing, but I left my batteries in my car, we took his and I had no batteries in the 3rd flash trigger