ouch mike you just got :wtcslap:
thank you kurt
because we did not fight a war against the Iraqi people, we fought a war against their unwanted totalitarian regime. When we fought Japan, we were fighting them as a people. Japan loved their government. They loved their country. This is not the case in Iraq. More than 99% of Iraqi’s are HAPPY that Americans are there. In Japan, we would have been conquering them, not liberating them. For a history major, you should be on top of this. I mean hell, im a college flunk out, you should be schooling my ass, right?
noahs ark = not proven, plagues could have been a coincidence. red sea already been proven = low tide or some shit like that maybe wind too cant remember 100 % but some type of environmental factor makes it posible to walk across at some point.
wouldnt you have to read the original text of the bible to get the accurate interpretation? cause i do beleive some of teh bible was fucked up when it was translated into the king james version.
so whys there no mention of dinosaurs and shit like that in the bible? and why is there no mention of evolution in the bible?
disclaimer: ive never read the thing and probably never will
really? So where is it then? You are telling me that in biblical times, in the very beginnings of society, some guy built a boat large enough to house 2 of every animal on the face of the planet. Then collected them, they all lived as a big happy animal family for 40 days, and they it was all good. All other traces of humanity were swept away. So we are all direct descendants of Noah and his family. Exlpain blacks, asians, caucasians, indians, inuits… Explain the complete and total different cultures and languages. Thats an interesting theory and all, but modern science has pretty much ripped it to fucking shreds. I could own you for hours on this subject, if you do so choose.
it sounded to me like you were going to start supporting your basis for having a jewish / palistinian state on biblical views. If you weren’t then i just misinterpreted where you were going to go with it.
yes there are people here who donated but guess what they can’t do shit right now cause we are watching things in this country too hard. the FBI knows who those people are they are just watching and waiting. also many of the donations came from groups that used a “front” to take donations.
I highly doubt that. Security in America is no better off than it was pre-9/11
Yes I will come out and say straight that I think saddam funded international terrorism. If he didn’t then why would he not release his financial documents?
Terresa Heinz Kerry didn’t release her tax statements. Do you think she is funding international terrorism?
I believe there are several reasons why he didn’t release financial documents. He was taking money from UN programs and getting plenty of bribes to start off with. He had full rule of the country and could take as much money as he wanted. He wouldn’t want to show that he is taking money that is supposed to be for food.
dude we were respected because we were feared after that. fear=respect. you make a place an example, I don’t care if we use nuclear weapons,torture prisoners, get a tip and blow a building apart, etc. if those people want the totalitarian gov. out they have to understand that THEY may have to die to free their countrymen. also, if 99% of the country didn’t like saddam why didn’t the military “grunts” surrender as soon as they saw coalition forces? the civilians, the ones being tortured, didn’t like saddam the military was still loyal to him so we have to get rid of what is left of the military by anymeans
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH holy shit… you guys are claiming the bible is accurate… !!! ahahahahahahahahahahah
are you guys serious???/
and that means killing lots and lots of innocent civilians. its a political war. never gonna happen.
low tide and being able to walk across is not the same thing as a guy sticking his staff in the ground, chanting some shit, and 50’ walls of water pulling back allowing him and his followers passage to freedom and then the walls of water come crashing down to kill their Egyptian pursuers
im saying that shit never happend
i mean for christ’s sake… you guys know that the people killing americans are being powered by mere faith… faith of religion… basically some asshole said a bunch of shit, claimed it to be true, and blinded an entire society by it… … i mean shit, do you see the irony?
1st. the bible is a complete fucking joke. Did anyone ever do that test in school where the teacher tells a student 1 thing then relays the info around the room and at the end the original statement is all messed up - multiply that by 2000 years. I don’t believe 1 word of the bible. There have been translation on top of translation of the book and the stories have been passed down from generation to generation before being written down.
2nd. You can’t compare ww2 to Iraq. It’s like comparing a ferrari to a dsm 
- it’s different worlds.
3rd. best thread ever
Agreed, Yeah finding proof about some of the things that happend in the bible is going to be impossible. It’s more like a test of faith. And other things will be able to be written off as natural occurances, because thats probably how it happend. Do you honestly think 2 giant hands came down and parted the red sea, but that doesn’t mean god didn’t do it.
because dinosaurs were before biblical times and people didn’t really just go dig to look for bones back then.
Evolution has NEVER been a proven fact. theories are all there is. it is not proven.
Mike go read up on it? there was a flood that covered the earth in that time period and in egyptian documents it was written Noah was a lunatic then around time of the flood all documentation stoped…they think the ark is on top of a mountain in the northern middle east. testing is being done to prove that.
the Heinz family is a bunch of crooks so obviously she won’t release her shit.
Many of the military ‘grunts’ did surrender. Hence why we took the country over in such a short amount of time. There were other instances where the officers higher up in ranks forced the ‘grunts’ to fight by shooting anyone that tried to surrender or escape
i do beleve they have found fosilized ramains and such of mammals, humanlike, and primate like one with significantly smaller brains, and one with just slightly smaller brains.
and if there was a flood that covered the world and egyptians in teh same sentance leads me to frther beleive the arc story is a complete fucking joke. if it happened at the time youre saying it happened we’d all be like the indaians and shit.
exactly, I believe the bible word for word and have read it. it is truely a moving book. I am not goin to get into a religious debate and I am probably not goin to come into this thread again or I will say something I will regret.
If you don’t beleive in the bible feel for you.
how were dinosaurs before biblical times!? The first 3 words of the bible are “In the begining”
Evolution has NEVER been a proven fact. theories are all there is. it is not proven.
edit: but so if evolution has never been proven, and we stemmed from 1 set of parents, then how do we have different ethnicities? Isn’t that evolution in a sense? Genes being manipulated so that the skin color is best suited for the enviroment?
man… religion messed with people’s minds…
someone can believe soooo strongly in the bible but call evolutoin speculation… i mean, if we wanted to dig up scientific FACT about both subjects, we would clearly see the more logical.
*note: i didn’t say anything about which is right / wrong.