Radar invisible street bike install.

Can a stealthed-out high performance sport motorcycle beat law enforcement’s attempt to electronically capture it?

Speed Measurement Labs (SML) and RadarBusters .com went head to head to find out and Super Street Bike magazine covered the results for a future issue.

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SML provided state-of-the art radar/laser guns and the certified police officers to operate them. The test was conducted during SML’s 2004 Radar Detector Shoot-Out in El Paso. For 18 years this annual three-day event has served as an objective field-testing forum for leading radar detector makers and radar/laser gun manufacturers.

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Super Street Bike magazine contacted one of their subscribers in the El Paso area, Frank Whisler, who agreed to participate in the event by allowing Radar Roy install the equipment for the test on his new 2004 Yamaha R1.

The evening prior to the testing, Radar Roy and his staff arrived with the “RadarDetectors.com” install trailer, at Frank’s home in El Paso to perform the install.

Countermeasure Equipment

To ensure SML was properly challenged, Radar Roy installed the following countermeasure products on Frank Whisler’s Yamaha R-1. (Whisler, a lucky guy from El Paso, got to keep all installed countermeasure products in exchange for the use of his bike).

Radar Detector: RadarBusters.com equipped the R-1 with an Escort 8500 X50. Rated the number one radar detector today in a recent evaluation by Motortrend Magazine. , The testing at Speed Measurement Labs shown that the X50 has over 11 miles of long-range radar detection capacity.

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Escort 8500 X-50 with blue display

Laser Jammer: The R-1 was equipped with a Blinder M-20 active laser jammer. One active laser jammer head was mounted on the front and one on the rear of the motorcycle. The Blinder M-20 is the only active laser jammer that jams 100% of all police laser guns.

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Blinder Laser Jammer head in front

Mounts : Radar Roy mounted the radar detector to a Stemstand that was slipped into the R1’s steering stem hole.
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“Spider” Stemstand Mount for R1

Radar Roy also used a “Spider” to mount a laser jammer head to the R1’s rear license plate cover.

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Rear Blinder Jammer w/Spider Mount

Detector Activation Alert Display: Many motorcyclists find it difficult to hear and/or see a radar detector alert. To help, Radar Roy attached a HARD System Transmitter to the radar detector and mounted a HARD System Receiver to the rider’s helmet. The HARD System Receiver’s bright LED light alerted the rider wirelessly to radar detector activation.

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Arai Full Face helmet with H.A.R.D

Blinder Laser Jammer Install

Radar Roy and his staff began the project by first installing the Blinder M-20 laser jammer.

The Blinder M-20 comes with two laser jammer heads. As a laser beam is 18" wide at 500 feet, one jammer to the front, near the R1’s headlamp, and one laser jammer head in the rear, near the license plate, would be adequate to jam all police laser guns.

The rear head was installed first using a mount fabricated by “Spider Mounts” who are Radar Roy’s fabricators and who manufacture many of the specialized motorcycle radar detector mounts sold on RadarBusters. This mount connected the rear jammer to the license plate of the R1.

The front Blinder jammer head was installed under the front faring using double sided tape.

The controller for the Blinder must be installed in a water proof area. The Blinder jammer heads, the power cable, the alert LED and Speaker all plug into the controller using standard RJ-11 jacks. (telephone jack). It was determined that the best location for the controller would be under the seat.
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Blinder Controller under seat of R1

The Blinder has an LED and small speaker to alert when the laser jammer is activated. The LED was mounted using nylon “Zip Ties” to the ignition switch. The speaker (app 3") was taped to the faring using double sided tape.
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Light Activated “RED”

The power switch was mounted to the side of the seat, allowing the rider to power on or off the Blinder M-20 while riding.
Power Switch mounted at seat

The install of the Blinder M-20 on the R1 motorcycle took approximately two hours.

Escort 8500 X-50 Install

The Escort 8500- X50 radar detector was then installed.

A Stemstand mount was used to mount the Escort 8500 X50. This mount slides into the steamhole found on many sport bikes. The radar detector is held in place by placing industrial Velcro (supplied) on the mount and detector.

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“Spider” Steam Mount for R1

A direct wire cord was then tapped into the accessory power cable on the R1. This allows power to the detector while the motorcycle is operating, and turns off power when the motorcycle is turned off.

The Escort 8500 X-50 was then placed onto the mount, plugged in and powered up. Total install time, 15 minutes.

H.A.R.D. System Install

As it is often difficult to hear and/or see you radar detector when it is activated on a motorcycle, Radar Roy choose to provide the rider with the Legal Speeding H.A.R.D. system. The H.A.R.D. is a two part wireless system. The transmitter connects directly to the radar detectors power port, and the power cable then plugs into the H.A.R.D. transmitter. The receiver then mounts inside the helmet. This heads up display the alerts the rider with a bright LED light, that the radar detector is activated.

The transmitter was Velcroed to the side of the Escort 8500 X50.

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H.A.R.D. Transmitter

The receiver was mounted to the outside of the helmet using Velcro and the LED cable was placed inside of the helmet behind the visor.
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H.A.R.D. LED

Total install time three minutes

The Test!

To eliminate any hint of bias certified police officers operated radar and laser guns as they do when they issue speeding tickets.
Police Officers performing test
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And the Winner is.

Proving once again why it’s the number one rated radar detector, the Escort 8500 X50 detected radar on all bands, including the new POP radar at a distance of over 4 miles away. This outstanding range gives any sport rider ample time to slow down!

The Blinder M-20 successfully jammed the laser guns, which made the Yamaha R-1 virtually invisible to this type of police traffic enforcement.
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Stalker laser gun - JAMMED!

Quality Countermeasures Work!

According to Radar Roy, “if you want to make sure you aren’t pulled over, you should observe the laws of the jurisdiction you are driving in.”

If you choose to exceed speed limits, and want to minimize the chance of being ticketed “you MUST equip your vehicle with the best countermeasure devices available, anything less is ineffective ,”

All products installed on the motorcycle used in this test are available for sale on our website at RadarBusters.com.

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i was gonna ask about radars on bikes and if anyone was doing it… I had an X50 before but it was giving me some bullshit service soon too often, so i sold it on ebay for 200 bucks, oh yea i bought it for 20 bucks from somone whole stole it out a car LOL

so thats it, i gotta get a car radar then again… not sure if I will looks so bulky and obvious there, so do the laser jammers and IMO laser jammers are not really laser jammers

I think at the lot a few weeks back someone had a radar hooked up to their bike, and it made noise right in their chatterbox I think? Not sure of the whole set up. But it didn’t look awkward at all. Do it up. ;D

I’m currently planing on mounting my Valentine 1 on the motorcycle.

The issues that come up with V1 is the back facing sensors. Most other detectors don’t have them so you’re not worried, however for the valentine to work properly the rear facing sensor has to be clear of obstruction therefore mounting it anywhere directly in front of the rider (tank, windscreen) is counter-productive.

I’m planing on using a mirror mount or making a custom mount to be sandwiched between the mirror and the fairing to be offset more to the right side to make sure front and back are clear.

Obvious or not it doesn’t matter since A) It’s legal in NY, and B) you will have it removable when you leave the bike. Rain is issue as it will be open to the elements to you would have to remove it once it starts raining, but I hope you’re not planing on speeding in the rain anyway.

Laser Jammers do work… the active ones. They are also however illegal in NY and IIRC carry a very hefty fine as their are border line felony (obstruction of justice?)

sell it to me Vlad.

wtf? hes not gonna sell it to you hes gonna install it on his bike and he would OBVIOUSLY sell it to me if he didnt want it

@nicole yea I know, im gonna do it, its just the pics from that magazine artcile made it look so bulky …

has anyone messed with the radar detectors that have the remote sensors? that u mount in the grill ? but are they even as effective as X50 or valentine or sti driver (watch me just say two radars and 3 names lol )

Gotta pay to play. They will look somewhat bulky no matter how you throw it around.

The remote terminal detectors usually are very high end (you’re looking at about 1000$ for good ones) and since you mount the actual terminals lower then the actual detector would have been you’re hurting the receivable area, the higher the sensors are the more it will pick up, and the sooner.

I would just buy a V1 and find a good location to put it up in. I mean you don’t have to have a clear shot of the rear and mount in on the windscreen, it will still pick up the signal just not as effectively, but it would be a much cleaner setup.

get yours all setup and let me see how it turns out, then i’ll probably mess around from there

There is really no where without remote setup where you could mount it on the bike to get good front and rear visibilty. Not that it matters all the much, how often do you have a cop behind you that you don’t know about when your speeding? If your cruising down the highway at 95 I rather doubt you will have a cop come up behind you that you don’t see unless your not checking the on-ramps for cops enterering as you ride by 'em. That H.A.R.D. system from legalspeeding.com is really nice with the LED in your helmet though it costs 160 bucks plus shipping so its a little steep.

Well the detection is only as good as it is visible. If I put a detector on the bike, I’m going to be damn sure there will be a bright visual alert going with it.

There are cheaper LED units you can actually mount right on detector or somewhere else remotely that would light up bright enough for you to see every time.

Either way there are good mounting locations and bad.

I’d say the issue is less about how bright it is, more about where it is positioned. I know on my bike if I’m cruisin down the highway and I’m sitting up I’m getting pounded in the chest with wind, so I tuck down some and than I can’t even see my speedo without moving my whole head at least a tiny bit. So a LED mounted down there won’t do much for something like that, those helmet mounted systems seem great.

Though wouldn’t it be possible to wire the detector into your helmet speakers through chatterbox?

It would and it’s done, but audio is not as instant or convenient as visual and it becomes a wire connecting you directly to the bike, where with H.A.R.D. system it’s wireless.

I’ve been down the road where my MP3 used to be on the bike and it would be connected to the chatterbox. Having a wire connecting you to the bike constantly gets old. Right now my MP3 is on my helmet, plugged into chatterbox, great setup.

thats what bluetooth tranciever and recievers are for :tong

Invisible to radar?

I think not.

Invisible to laser, maybe, more like ‘resistant’ to laser.

You can’t do shit about radar legally.

Good luck finding one :tong

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I was always under the impression that broadcasting laser light wasn’t violating the FCC, unlike broadcasting the K or Ka band radar.

You guys have it backwards:

Radar jammers-

Active are HIGHLY illegal and will get you a federal felony if even caught with one.

Passive simply don’t work. At all. Just gimmicks.

Laser Jammers-

There is only one type, because it only does one thing. and they are all quite legal to use.

ah ok, thats where I heard on radar roy year or two back that some kind of jammer, now i see its radar jammer, is just bullshit…

So laser jammers, work? and are legal in NY ?

Correct.