very true… my only point was that the steelers were gonna fill any stadium… did they need a new one…thats debateable… i think yes in way but they just executed it horribly… heinz sucks and they certainly could have made it 10,000 seats bigger. heinz is maybe 1500 bigger than 3rivers was. If you have a waiting list of 20,000 why wouldnt u want a bigger stadium. so far heinz has been noted for poor kicking conditions, poor playing surface, lack of crowd noise, ugly seats, boring facade (sp?) thats what i mean as far as the way they exucuted it. PNC, while has a terrible product inside, has got nothing but rave reviews about the venue itself.