Thats too simplistice and wont solve the problems. We can’t help what happens to the cost of healthcare. Which is the root of almost all problems associated with union these days.
How many kids do you have in the Williamsville Central School District?
None, I pay (twice) for their education. Once in my exorbitant taxes and again in tuition. Interestingly, they get a much, much better education at a private school where the tuition is LESS than the per capita expenditure in the WCSD. The best way to “reform” the public schools is make them compete by giivng vouchers equal to the cost. The only people blocking this supremely logical idea are guess who - the teacher’s unions. Surprise! There would be just about no one left in the PS system with a decent voucher system in place. But they are concerned “for the children” and hence fight the idea tooth and nail.
The hypocrisy (and greed) is stunning. Oh yes, more money for the schools in the PRNY will help. Help insure mediocrity and the re-election of Spitzer anyway. Fine idea, typical of Albany. I am surprised no one has yet said “if you don’t like it, leave.” Tens of thousands are doing so every year, and the reason is simple. High taxes, due to overpaid government employees (especially teachers) leads to a poor business climate, private sector job loss and wage stagnation for the ever fewer jobs that are left. The only growth area in NYS is the public sector. Obviously, this creates a negative feeback loop. If there is one group that could be held responsible for the decline of NYS, it is the public school teachers and their unions. Just look at the shenanigans in the city of Buffalo wrt the single health insurance provider issue. The BTF is so greedy that they are willing to cut off their nose to spite their face. Fucking morons.
Nice job guys, keep it up. Of course, once you retire and get your pension you will move out to avoid the taxes :eyebrow:
Edit: when I posted the above I should have said “If there is one group that could be held responsible for the decline of NYS, besides the state Legislature and the various town and local governments, it is the public employee unions. Of these, the teacher’s unions are the worst due to their size, clout, and stunning disregard for anything other than their own self interest”.
^ There are very few people left in NYS that get it the way this guy does. Most of them have given up and moved to other states.
I have a feeling in the next 5 years I’ll probably be out too. Right now I have some old relatives I’m very close with and don’t want to move, but when they’re gone I think I’ll give up on this state too. I’ll just be one more educated, high earning tax payer gone from this area, and the state will just raise the taxes a little more to make up for my absense.
Jay: that’s what keeping me here, family. My son is getting married, just bought a house a few blocks away and my daughter is probably going to college in the general area. I don’t think I will be able to get the wifey away from the kids and possible grandkids.
At least some of us see what’s going on here. Unfortunately, we are too few and too disorganized to change much. I see continual decline in the area as the population ages, productive people move out, and the government gets ever larger and more expensive. Interesting fact, the budget for Erie County alone is ~$1.4 billion annually. That is is larger than the entire GNP of the 30 or so poorest countries!!! And we pay for local and state (and federal) government as well. WTF is going on. And we put a Republican into Albany, which did nothing. We had a Republican majority in Congress and in the White House and still the beat goes on with ever more government spending. I think the federal government is headed the same was as NYS. More like Europe than the US of old. Stagnant economy, creeping socialism, stifling government.
Sad to see it happen, it really is.
God damn you don’t even have kids, which means you don’t even have real contact with the district. The average teacher in the private sector gets paid less than 30k a year and still has to get the same education that someone in the public sector needs. Those students tend to do better in school for a lot more reasons then the quality of thier teachers which isn’t going to be that great. They come from higher end families that give more attention to thier childs education than the average parent in the public sector. Also classroom sizes are about half, I can tell you I could do a much better job teaching if I had around 15 student in my class instead of 30. But you don’t think of those things, you just look at the number and the figures and draw your coclusions sitting at your computer, not taking into account any of the real things that control a students success. Typical.
Underpaid teachers leads to shitty teahers which leads to a piss poor education system at the teaching level, that only hurts the students.
If you think that most teachers getting in the field today do it for the money then you are truley cluless on the topic, but that doesn’t mean that we should be paid shit either.
All your stereotypes against teachers might hold water only to the few that started teaching 30+ years ago who are on a different pension and salary system. That would be your generation grandpa.
For the rest of us, we won’t get thier type of pension, or retire making the amount of money that they were able to make. You might know this if you had a clue about the teaching field of today, but you don’t.
Don’t be pissed off because we went and got ourselves educated which means we don’t have to get our hands dirty to make a living.
I’m done with this topic. I’m not going to have a 60 year old piss ant sitting at a computer dictate to me the field he has no experience with.
PS: Thanks for the taxes, I went to the Williamsville school district and I got a top notch education. The Dell computers were great. 
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