Selling the car as whole or parting out…
http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/pts/991123337.html
724-825-3763 cell ask for mike.
Girl i work with needs a driver side power window motor.
how much?
i’ll pay a grand for the dropout
people… keep in minde this is a SH… not a base model there is a difference… the h22a4 in both have the same power but different block & tranny due to the ATTS, front suspension is different too
here is more detailed info
both the base model and the SH have about 200hp to the flywheel. Although when dyno’d and powered measured to the wheels the base model puts out a couple of more horses because the SH looses a bit more power due to the ATTS system robbing some ponies.
The SH prelude ATTS problem with high horsepower is that it shuts off in the range of 220-250 horsepower and becomes useless. The base and the SH have the same engine albeit the SH block is a little different with the oil filter being in a different location than the base prelude to accomodate ATTS.
if you want a drag car, get the base.
if you want a car for auto-xing, track, road courses…etc, get the SH.
you’ll find parts easier for the base, for the SH you’ll have to hunt.
if you want to go turbo with an SH, you can always disconnect the ATTS unit.
LSD not compatible with ATTS.
ATTS: Active Torque Transfer System.
It basically sends more power to the outside wheel when cornering making it spin 15% faster than the inside wheel.
both base and SH models are identical when it comes to the engines power at the flywheel. The SH has some accessories that the base model does not have such as a leather shift knob, spoiler, different rims, and some others
front suspension is different on the SH (biggest thing people dont realize). the geometry is different (specially designed to reduce torque steer) and the exhaust routing is slightly different to accomodate the ATTS.
The SH has a different block, it’s a fact. That’s why the SH and Base trannies is not a bolt on swap. Internally they are the same, but the block design on the outside is differnt. Intermediate shaft and tranny mounting, oil filter and a bunch of other stuff.
There is a thread on PO.com that details how to do a SH tranny swap to a base, it’s not easy and involves fabrication.
The swap to a base tranny is NOT DIFFICULT. Trust me, I’ve done it…they are my pictures on preludeonline. The only difference is the SH block has mounting points for the ATTS unit instead of an intermediate shaft. The modification to bolt an intermediate shaft up only takes a little bit of work to the bearing carrier of the shaft as well as the fabrication of an adapter plate (which is simply a drilled piece of 1/4" plate). You can retain your SH axles and nothing else changes…you only need a base tranny and intermediate shaft. My pics are here:
http://ian.clendaniel.net/gallery/noatts
Yeah, the front suspension difference shouldn’t be a deterrant - it’s really not a big deal. Just replace the springs & shocks together.
There is a small difference in the exhaust manifold - the SH collector ends a few inches farther downstream than the base.
The oil filter is in a different location on the block, but all that means is if you get a JRSC kit, it needs to be relocated.
All the other issues all revolve around the ATTS system. Like has been mentioned already, in high powered applications (turbo, supercharger, or extreme n/a), it will have trouble handling the power. If you just want nitrous, you might be alright since you’re not spraying all the time. And you’re not likely to spray around too many corners where the ATTS would actually be operating.
You also won’t be able to install a limited slip differential at the same time as the ATTS - if you decide you want one, a tranny swap & mild custom fabbing will be in order. And if you decide to go to a stand-alone management system like Hondata or AEM, you’ll lose the ATTS functions.
And then there’s those few extra pounds up front. shrug
All of that said, there are definitely advantages to the SH model - little things like the courtesy lights on the doors, leather wrapped shift knob, the spoiler & brakelight-less rear deck, stuff like that is nice. And of course, within it’s boundaries, the ATTS works very well at getting rid of understeer. It’s extremely fun on highway on-ramps . . .
-SH does not have more power. auto preludes (5G) all have 190hp, Manuals have 195hp (1997, 1998) and 200hp (1999-2001). SH come ONLY in manual
-the difference in hp was never quite accounted for, some say the 97-98 were underrated, some say it was just ecu tuning, either way it’s not a big difference
-SH and base lude differ mainly because the SH has ATTS, which essentially makes the front wheels turn like a tank when you turn hard (more torque to the outside wheel)
-other than that, the suspension differs in that the upper and lower control arm designs were changed to reduce torque steer. it is slightly stiffer too.
There are actually quite a few differences between the base and the Type SH suspension, The springs are not the same. The type SH springs are a little taller. The struts are different as well, the base where the spring is perched sits lower on the Type SH, hence the taller spring. It results in a little firmer spring rate than the base. Lets not forget to mention the front knuckles are different, the raius rods, the front trailing arms, and the roll bars are a couple of millimeters thicker than the base front and rear. In the rear the springs and struts are different on the SH, it has the same condition as the front where the perch that the spring sits on is slightly lower than the base model, and the spring is slightly taller than the base model, It is not as big of a difference between the SH and Base rears as the fronts are though, the rear trailing arms are a little thicker as well but not much. The only problems with aftermarket struts would be modifying the dust gaurds on the struts with stock springs, however if you go aftermarket springs and struts that are replaced in tandem you will not run into any issues…
is there and frame damage besides the rad support?
im in for 1300