SHO powered camaro

yes the original plan was Nitrous first, turbo later
the current plan is forget the nitrous go right to turbos

the reason for this is that as soon as the engine was in the car, it was determined we would have to build new exhaust mani’s just to get the engine in the car, in which case they might as well be flanged for the too, even if we do an adapter pipe for the time being while its sprayed

then we thought about all the little stuff that will be much easier to modify for the turbo piping, which is obviously best done before the car is assembled, and the need for a nitrous TC on teh first setup and a Turbo TC on the second setup.

its one thing to build a nitrous car because its what you want and later decide to go turbo, but why go nitrous now when you KNOW your going turbo later? just go turbo right off the bat and be done w/ it

alex and i have also debated the single turbo idea, but again we would be doing something that would require compromises, still need all new manifolds, but now your trying to snake hot pipes to the front of the engine and then back past the engine again, miles of heat wrap, heat soaking the engine bay, all the same kind of shit we went through on the turbo sho.

TT’s can sit in the vast open space behind the crossmember next to the engine and i wont have to repeat the episode at winged warriors that left a 90mm circular burn mark on my stomach from leaning on the maf sensor while it sat disconnected on the radiator support while we fiddled in the engine bay

from the picture of the tt motor and the one of the motor in the camaro engine bay, there is no way the turbos will fit because of the the aprons/shock towers.

are you getting the dual intake or sticking with the one throttle body intake?

this has not been determined for sure yet. Chances are it will be a similar setup to the picture on the last page with twin TB’s

actually, the turbos WOULD fit up there, but it would take some creative wrench work to get them on and off. the aprons arent even the problem, the master cylinder is

But when i said next to the motor / behind the crossmember i was actually talking about next to the oil pan, because the top mount manifolds may be more work then they are worth

i may wind up building a twin throttle body intake like that just for shits and giggles, because if we dont use it on alex’s car i can always sell it

update???

got my built TH400 back from competition a few weeks ago. He is building me a high stall converter with a goal of 5000-5500rpm. heads are at napa getting over size valves installed. block and rotating assembly are also there waiting for a replacement set of pistons to arrive. The ones Wiesco sent me have the wrong wrist pin size. Adapter plate for transmission is complete. Waiting on new stainless exhaust flanges to get started on turbo manifolds and up pipes. Really pushing to have this out in spring. now that most of the big $$$ stuff is out of the way it should not be to horrible to do.

AWESOME updates…

and thanks for the heads up on the tdi, but i haven’t had the time for car let alone a engine swap :stuck_out_tongue:

This thread makes baby jesus cry.

take a break from this? holy blast from the past batman

I really figured this was dead.

no the project is certainly not dead. I hope to have the engine back in the next couple weeks and once I assemble it the fab work begins.

oo snappp

still running the nitrous or going for the turbo gusto right away?

What happens when this runs slower, costs more, breaks more often then a LS1 swap?

It’ll be like every other race car ever built?

spraying it was a way to get it on the road quickly on a stock engine. I decided I didn’t want to do it twice so I am starting on a engine with forged pistons. Any spray it sees will be to help spool the single turbo or to aid in charge cooling when the boost numbers get way up there.

my goal is still to run 10’s. Car is light (compared to my turbo SHO), has a big stall, and a trans I hopefully can’t harm. As long as I get the correct rear end gears it should move out really well. I ran 12.7 in a 3800lb FWD car crippled by a shitty transmission and torque management that could not be disabled . Making power was never a problem my old car had. I could never get it to launch properly or have a transmission that shifted quickly. Making north of 500WHP is not a difficult task with a turbo SHO engine so I am confident. At the very least I will know that I am the only person i have ever herd of doing this swap. So i gain (or loose) points if this ends up being a quick car (loose points for exploding at the start line)

got a call from napa yesterday they said the machine work on the block is complete. The machine work on the heads is complete they just have to replace the valve seals and install the valves and I will pick everything up. Hopefully next week sometime the heads will be complete. I hurt my back at work a couple weeks ago so once I am back to work I can order all the material for the project and get it done. I think the engine assembly should only take a couple days or so. Everything has slowly spread from the original pile of parts I had in the fall when I took it apart so it will take some poking around to get everything together. Pics to come in the following weeks.

I want to see this done!!

1/2" laser cut 304 stainless header flanges. 1 set for this car, 4 sets for sale

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v473/hotrodkid/sho%20stuff/PICT0131-1.jpg

Nice flanges, who cut them?