Easy there Fat kid, do you even own a 240sx because we still haven’t seen it.
Peice of cake you say huh?..deal! :lol:[/quote]
well if ur lazy ass would have come to the kitchener meet u could have come to my house to witness the greatness
oh and fro the record my ka-t has been done for under 2000, all new parts too, that includes turbo, manifold, ic, ic piping,SS 3 inch exhaust and down pipe, hks s-afr, apexi sitc, rebic IV, hks turbo timer, 5th injector(770cc), 370cc primarys, and profec B boost controller, and bov.
Easy there Fat kid, do you even own a 240sx because we still haven’t seen it.
Peice of cake you say huh?..deal! :lol:[/quote]
He is only fat because of all the birthday cake you guys feed him. lol. So Hector don’t race him at a meet cause that could be too much cake haha. why don’t you guys just sumo wrestle haha.
Easy there Fat kid, do you even own a 240sx because we still haven’t seen it.
Peice of cake you say huh?..deal! :lol:[/quote]
He is only fat because of all the birthday cake you guys feed him. lol. So Hector don’t race him at a meet cause that could be too much cake haha. why don’t you guys just sumo wrestle haha.[/quote]
Sumo sounds good it will be a triple threat match me v.s. Hector v.s. Adam Jantos… since he said he would like to line it up too :lol: .
…Better yet since you brought it up, we will make it a tag team match you and Jantos v.s. me and Hector…and bring lot’s of chocolate cake. :lol:
The KA will spool faster b/c of a displacement advantage, assuming identical turbines. If the KA was running a significantly bigger turbo and SR was on the stock T25, it would be the opposite, just as you said.
turbo=$500
manifold=$250
ic=$250
ic piping=$20 bucks
SS 3 inch exhaust=part of the 20 mentioned above
down pipe=part of 20 as well
hks s-afr=$150
apexi sitc=$150
rebic IV=free
hks turbo timer=free
5th injector(770cc)=free
370cc primarys=$50 balenced and cleaned
profec B boost controller=free
bov=freee
wait lets add in oil, coolant, fuel filter , fuel pump, misc lines and clamps, couplers, and paint, and beer /food for the helpers
ya well guess what i guess it pays to be in the business and have people bug u all day to do work for them,
see when u got skillz( people and mechanical) u get shit, when ur tha man u get shit
if u want the list of stuff done to my car and how much i paid for parts
ill give u that as well then cuz youll realize how much u suck at life
The KA will spool faster b/c of a displacement advantage, assuming identical turbines. If the KA was running a significantly bigger turbo and SR was on the stock T25, it would be the opposite, just as you said.[/quote]
can u be 100% sure when u say that ? have u flow tested the heads ? have u checked how well the ka will flow as compared to the sr ? how do u know that just soley based on the fact that the ka is bigger that it will spool faster? have u put into account intercooler sizing, piping lenth and diamiter? manifold design ?have u maybe read the compressor maps for ta stock t25 and noticed that it does not flow enough lbs/hr to support a ka at high rpm? what about base timing advance ? u know those all come into account as well right ? did u even check compression raito’s?
what would be your opinion of significantly bigger turbo ?pt 72?
The KA will spool faster b/c of a displacement advantage, assuming identical turbines. If the KA was running a significantly bigger turbo and SR was on the stock T25, it would be the opposite, just as you said.[/quote]
I’ll wait for you to respond to Hector before I continue to argue… how many SRs do you know running non t2 series turbos? Not many. I on the other hand know almost no ka-ts running any turbos smaller than a t3 series turbo. :gtfo:
I have a N/A KA with a bad clutch, SRs can’t compete with me, I’m the KING of wood
can u be 100% sure when u say that ?yup have u flow tested the heads ?nope have u checked how well the ka will flow as compared to the sr ?nope how do u know that just soley based on the fact that the ka is bigger that it will spool faster? Chemistry my good man, chemistry! have u put into account intercooler sizing, piping lenth and diamiter?Nope, I said that all things being equal, the KA will spool better, if you do start taking these things into account, you’re dealing with a SPECIFIC KA-T vs. a SPECIFIC SR. manifold design ? See previous have u maybe read the compressor maps for ta stock t25 and noticed that it does not flow enough lbs/hr to support a ka at high rpm?Nope. what about base timing advance ? Nuh-uh. u know those all come into account as well right ?Yes, when dealing specifics, not in general terms did u even check compression raito’s? Ehh… I suppose you have a point here, but the compression ratios aren’t so different as to produce a LARGE heat difference and give an edge to the smaller motor, the volume flow of the KA will still beat it out.
what would be your opinion of significantly bigger turbo ?pt 72? One that isn’t almost the same… I dunno? I don’t study turbines in detail
Aaaanyway… Bigger displacement, more air, therefore more fuel, this means more exhaust gas. This means if you stuck something (a turbine) on the back end, it would spin up earlier. If you were using different turbines, had different pipes in between, all these things can change, but if you were using the SAME things, KA spool > SR spool.
Edit: And props on your KA-T setup, but you just proved my point. That was 100% hookups, almost none of those items cost that little in reality. What if I had a cousin that gave me an SR clip, a HKS GT-RS, a Blitz LM fmic, PowerFC, 550cc injectors, etc… for $20 bucks? Don’t I then have an SR putting out 300whp for $20?
Andrews point get’s proven right here. It is cheap to do a KA-t if you either fab everything your self or if you get a bunch of freebies or if you do all the work your self like Hector did (and nothing against Hector for doing his own work, all the power to him and God bless him that he has that skill and knowledge to do all those things him self, I wish there were more people like him around). But for the average guy who has most his work done at a shop because he can’t do all the work him self it is not so cheap. Hector did all/most the work him self or helpers and he even got a few freebies and it still costed him $2000.00 I know guys that bought SR’s for $2000.00 / $2500.00
Anyway this thread is tiring me out we can sit here all day and go back and forth with this so this will be my last post on this thread.
-I still believe the SR is the best bang for the $
No matter which engine you go with (SR20DET or KA-T) they can both be made to go very fast and one faster then the other, it’s all a matter of how much time and money you are will to put into it.
-RB26 owns us all
PERIOD.
I think you’re closed minded, talk a lot of smack and don’t respect other people’s opinions. Someone is already doing a VQ30 into a 240, so we’ll talk about how much of a ricer I am when he’s done. Man… putting in a lighter higher-displacement motor with excellent potential is SUCH rice… That’s like altezza lights.
