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I couldnt disagree with you more.
Nothing I said was able to be disagreed with! It based on fact (minimun wage/tipping) and Personal Experience (Scum of Society)
Pizza guys are not considered ‘Tipped Employees’ if they were, They’d make under minimun wage. They don’t.
umm they do drive around a lot… and based on current gas prices i can gee them going through 5 dollars of gas an hour based on area, traffic, and how busy the pizza place is.
but i do agree for the most part delivery guys are scum.
But, if you aren’t happy with what you are getting paid you either
1.) ask for a raise (it works! Try it)
2.) Find a new, higher paying job.
Thats how I feel about it.
When taking a position that involves delivering Pizza, you know that you are going to get paid junk, and that you are going to be driving alot on some days and none on others.
I don’t complain about how little I make at my job, simply because I agreed to it before signing any papers and starting there. I also knew that I would not be driving very far, and that I would not be asked to go to other stores…
When you take a job, I believe you should figure in all expenses as if you are going to make the minimum possible at that job.
For example- If I make 7.00 an hour and are guarenteed 30 hours a week or more. I figure how much I’m going to make at 7.00 an hour at 30 hours a week… Not how much I could make if I worked a 40 hour week.
So for pizza delivery, you should know that you could work 40 hours a week at 5.00 an hour… and assume you will only have 20 deliveries that week, tipping about 2.00 a delivery. Ya know?
I worked at a shop for a long time… I know how it is when you don’t get tipped, but I also never expected a tip… and thats how it needs to be looked at.
alot of pizza guys ive seen have tons of cash. and i always thought it was common to tip the delivery guy.
but on asking for a raise. yeah i can almost see that shit happening because 1, they’ll say no. 2, they’ll just replace you.
and finding a new higher paying job in this area is a joke. you either have to get into a job and learn/excel at you position and transfer out to a diff company to make any real money or you have to have a college degree.
/:gives:
its more or less getting used to the tips and then expecting them
I agree, it is hard to find a job… but everybody has got to start somewhere. I make junk money at a crap job, with room for advancement… and thats what you have to do.
Find a job that can eventually, in the long run, get you somewhere.
I am learning that everyone starts small.
Not having a degree makes it hard to find a high paying job.
You don’t need a degree for retail, car sales, food service, some office positions, janitorial positions, waiting tables, etc. etc. the list goes on.
I agree that its is hard to find a job, but I also know for a fact there are jobs out there that pay alot higher than 5.35 an hour to start.
and thats when Pizza guys become assholes and peel tire in their reno in front of my home, and I remove myself from my Pizza to throw a rock at them, call their manager, and never think about possibly tipping a pizza guy again.
If they don’t expect them, they come off as friendlier, and are more likely to get tipped next time. I found that our regular customers would tip everybody differently. . . My good drivers got good tips, my shit drivers who were immature and made a fuss about things, got terrible tips.
they still deserve to be tipped, IMHO.
I agree. I never said I didn’t tip, I just said that they can’t complain if someone doesn’t tip them. 
I remember everyone jumping on my ass when I said this about scum waitresses and waiters in another thread a while ago.
Waiters/waitresses make $2.83/hour, and as long as they are pleasant to you no matter what your problem is, they deserve to be tipped.
Pizza delivery people make at least $5.15/hour, plus usually $1 every delivery, plus whatever people decide to tip them.
Waiters/waitresses != pizza delivery people
you don’t drive 20 miles to get to your table at the restaurant.
fuck it, i’m never tipping another waiter/waitress again and saving all of that money and giving it to pizza delivery people.
Good, then don’t ever come into my restaurant, or out to eat with me.
(BTW, Delivery people drive MAYBE a 5 mile radius… not 20!)
Not tipping the Pizza guy makes you a cheap motherfucker, period. Who are you to stereotype him as “scum”? Maybe he’s a college kid hustling his way to paid tuition? Maybe it’s someone who’s doing it temporarily because they just lost their job?
haha
i konw what you’re saying, but pizza delivery isn’t a waitress, you can’t bitch to the pizza kid to get free food or more food or anything of the sort… so whatever.
one time blk and i were at fridays with our women, we got like 70 bucks in drinks and tipped the jerk off (who wasn’t pleasant and forgot our drink orders more than once) like 3 bucks… he was all pissed and chad said he was starring at us through the window 
he got :owned:
BUT, his wages, if our tip kept him below minimum wage, will be granted to him from the local government… so ti’s all bullshit
a pizza delivery and waitress job are minimum wage jobs… they ‘deserve’ nothing.
btw, i usually overtip people… just my take on it.
I make $5/hour. I drive roughly 100 miles per seven hour shift. I get about 20mpg while delivering. Gas is $2.75/gallon.
$35 in pay
- $13.75 fuel cost
- $1 (1/30th of oil change)
$20.25/7 hours of work ($2.89/hour)
I’d say that number is VERY consistent with what a waitress makes. I’m not saying I expect an incredible tip from every customer, but if you can’t tip, drive your cheap ass to the pizza shop and pick the food up.
It’s not poor people either. I’ve noticed that people who live in a shack don’t usually order delivery unless they have at least an extra dollar to give me on top of the total. The people who don’t tip are:
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Over-spending yuppie assholes (like my parents’ neighbours) who believe they are entitled to additional services (delivery) for no premium over takeout price. Maybe they can put that $2 toward the Volvo payment… :rolleyes:
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Millvale/Etna drunks who give their seven year old kids the money because they’re too sloshed to get off the couch.
If a regular customer realises when I get there that they don’t have enough cash for a tip, I say “don’t worry about it”, and I get tipped next time. If someone displays an obvious disregard for the quality of their service by neglecting to tip me, next time their food may be:
- shaken vigorously before being delivered.
- upside-down
- cold
they should be happy that i don’t dip my balls in it.