If GR+ are for comfort, why a solid lower mount instead of a bushing?
Yeah I got them from Bing…who btw is a great seller
Anywho, As far as bang for your buck goes I cant think of a better coilover out there right now. I had plans of building my car up as a part-time track car but lately I’ve sorta switched directions with it…needless to say it doesn’t see the track too often.
I find them to be a bit too stiff for daily road usage around Toronto. They absolutely rock on smooth pavement but over potholes and bumps they can be pretty irritating. There’s certain streets (and HWY’s) in T.O. that I try to avoid with these things. But as a track coilover the 8/6 rates are pretty amazing…and they come with extra 9/6 springs in the box…I only wish they’d make a 6/5 set of springs to swap out for daily driving.
I’m agree with what overboost said about the helper springs. I don’t know what kind of R&D went into them (what with matching the spring rates) but from what I can see they look exactly the same as the original coilovers only with the added springs and perches…which is why I wonder if I could just slap them on my existing rears.
Overall I’ve been pretty happy with them quality wise. They are infinately adjustable and I’ve had zero trouble with them so far. Thumbs up!
Are we sure thats a solid mount and not just a black poly bushing? Either way who knows. The only other “drift” coilover I can think of with helper springs are Tanabe -DD’s but the again Tanabe puts helper springs on everything they make. I’m guessing it’s just a way for Stance to add a supposedly new model to the line-up without having to re-invent the wheel so to speak.
Perhaps Bing can pick thier brains a bit more on this stuff.
i expect to order a couple more sets of interested parties in a couple weeks, at that time i will handle your inquiry for the other smaller parts.
its a hectic time right now with the wedding and honeymoon and stuff so i am trying not to take on too much more
cgguy,
yeah my rear pillow mounts are noisy. Then again alot of things are noisy in my car.
Andrew.
lol, good point. Between my coilovers, exhaust and other various rattles I think it’s time to upgrade to a louder stereo. If you can’t hear it then there’s not a problem right?
Update:
Stance Coilovers: $1550 shipped
Stance GR+: $1650 shipped
please note that GR+ are actually $100 usd more which has associated insurance and customs fees and so my price is actually even better on the GR+ than it is for the regular coilovers.
the differences are:
helper spring, new rear lower mount (stiffer?)
go here:
Looks like they ditched the poly bushings on the lower mounts.
Hey I wonder if they’d be willing to sell the helper springs and perches seperately…you know so I could turn mine into GR pros??? The models look exacly the same appart from the added helper springs.
Any chance you could look into this option Bing? I’m thinking it might make the ride over T.O. pavment a little more enjoyable and less noisy.
Daaaammmn those GR+'s are nice.
Word of warning with helper springs. If not matched proper to the other springs rate they will hinder instead of help.
My personal opinion on helper springs, unless they are from a company that makes 3000 US coilovers, 1 spring will suffice. Alot of companies throw together helper spring systems without doing the necessary R&D.
Andrew.
sorry i’m a total noob when it comes to this stuff, but wat difference does the helper springs do and also with the new rear lower mount? ive also heard that its bad to droop on helper springs? why is this?
i’m asking this because i just want to know the true differenced between the two versions, with knowing wat the additions actually do.
thanks to anyone who can help provide this information.
this would be for drift application, NOT grip.
thanks
Helper springs are used to keep the main spring seated. That way you can run zero pre-load on the main spring. Witout pre-load you get added ride comfort since the main spring is at full slack and you dont have to worry about it becoming un-seated durring rebound.
For drifiting there’s no real reason to have them that I can think of…
Hey while I’m here do either of you guys find the rear pillow-balls to be noisy?
ya, i’ve read on zilvia that these GR+ are supposed to make things more comfortable while allowing the height adjustment to go lower.
so i guess the GR+ are more for people who rather have a more streetable coil with less noise, and more comfort?
oh and while on topic, Cgguy, i’m assuming you have these coils NOT GR+. how do you find them? rough on street?
any input and things you have noticed with these? thanks a lot bud!
If GR+ are for comfort, why a solid lower mount instead of a bushing?
Yeah I got them from Bing…who btw is a great seller
Anywho, As far as bang for your buck goes I cant think of a better coilover out there right now. I had plans of building my car up as a part-time track car but lately I’ve sorta switched directions with it…needless to say it doesn’t see the track too often.
I find them to be a bit too stiff for daily road usage around Toronto. They absolutely rock on smooth pavement but over potholes and bumps they can be pretty irritating. There’s certain streets (and HWY’s) in T.O. that I try to avoid with these things. But as a track coilover the 8/6 rates are pretty amazing…and they come with extra 9/6 springs in the box…I only wish they’d make a 6/5 set of springs to swap out for daily driving.
I’m agree with what overboost said about the helper springs. I don’t know what kind of R&D went into them (what with matching the spring rates) but from what I can see they look exactly the same as the original coilovers only with the added springs and perches…which is why I wonder if I could just slap them on my existing rears.
Overall I’ve been pretty happy with them quality wise. They are infinately adjustable and I’ve had zero trouble with them so far. Thumbs up!
Are we sure thats a solid mount and not just a black poly bushing? Either way who knows. The only other “drift” coilover I can think of with helper springs are Tanabe -DD’s but the again Tanabe puts helper springs on everything they make. I’m guessing it’s just a way for Stance to add a supposedly new model to the line-up without having to re-invent the wheel so to speak.
Perhaps Bing can pick thier brains a bit more on this stuff.
i expect to order a couple more sets of interested parties in a couple weeks, at that time i will handle your inquiry for the other smaller parts.
its a hectic time right now with the wedding and honeymoon and stuff so i am trying not to take on too much more
cgguy,
yeah my rear pillow mounts are noisy. Then again alot of things are noisy in my car.
Andrew.
lol, good point. Between my coilovers, exhaust and other various rattles I think it’s time to upgrade to a louder stereo. If you can’t hear it then there’s not a problem right?
Stance GR+ PRO coilovers for S13. Just brought up a few sets of them.
These have the helper springs on the rear units and the upgraded bushing on the rear lower perch.
if your upper mounts are noisey try putting some grease and tightening the bolt on top
Hey Bing,
What’s the protocall for servicing these coilovers? I’m thinking l might need to have my passenger side front repaired. Do you have any contact info or shipping details for Stance as to how I might go about this.
Thanks Bing.