Starting to plan for Winter deliver, need help in choosing a vehicle.

Ok here’s my situation.

One of my jobs is nighttime delivery of the Buffalo News. I am probably what you would call a power courier because on Sundays I deliver ~600 papers. Regardless of the amount of papers, I put on 120 miles daily with my routes alone, not counting transit from Newfane to NT warehouse to pick them up. All total, I would say around 150 miles every night. The good thing is, I deliver rural and mostly to tubes and mailboxes in the Pendleton, Lockport, Newfane area. The bad thing is, there is constant stop and go so that wears heavy on everything from brakes to gas. The first winter I did this, I had around 300 papers on Sunday and I did this on a Corolla. Then consecutive years I did it on a Chevy Uplander.

The Corolla was nice because of the gas, but winter time, I was getting stuck everywhere. The issue is that out in the country, the plows don’t come out sometimes until 5am when there’s already over 1 foot of snow on the road and I start at 1am. The corolla was usually in the red end of the tach and I bet people knew when I was coming around when they heard the “ne-ne-ne-ne-ne” drawing nearer. Eventually that blew up. (about 30k miles of abuse).

The Chevy was a bit better because it sits higher so clearance is better but getting stuck was still an issue, especially after the plows go by and dumb snow right on the bank where I tend to drive. The downside here is that it is much heavier, so stopping is terrible and I would constantly slide past the mailboxes.

Now I do more papers than I ever did and so the only way I can do that through winter is if I can continue doing it fast enough. What would be my best choice of car that is relatively cheap (preferably less than $2k) and has a good record in terms of being reliable? What is the biggest factor in starting and stopping power in snow? When there’s 1 foot of snow on the ground?

My plan so far is this, on the days when there is just light snow, I will drive my 2001 Prius with studded snow tires that were on it when I bought it. I’m guessing the combination of not being a very quick car, being very light, and regen brakes should give it some good stop and go in the snow. It cannot handle Sunday papers however.

For Sundays and days when it is snowing heavy out there I’m thinking something along the lines of a 1994 Cherokee or an older Wrangler? How prone are the Cherokee’s to flipping? I was thinking of a cheap older Geo Tracker but that interior space isn’t so great. I’ve taken a Chevy 3500 4x4 (with a plow on) out before, it was nice but stopping sucks and I believe it’s a V8 so gas was terrible. I’m thinking gas will be terrible either way but any thoughts would be helpful.

On a side note, the Corolla was nice because the middle of the night with snowy country roads= fun driving. I sometimes think maybe I should grab a 4x4 Subaru beater or something and have fun with it.

Any help is appreciated!

Edit: Before you ask, in my position, yes, this is all worth it for a paper job! The money is pretty good, and I get back what I lose in operating costs with the amount of miles I put on.

Put a cap/tonneau cover on it and have more room than you could ever ask for? TONS of recent work done…

http://www.nyspeed.com/showthread.php?283477-1997-Ford-Ranger-XLT-2-750-TONS-of-new-parts&highlight=ranger

Love ya Joe but 2wd stick in a light truck?

My wife had a RAV4 and it was a beast in the snow, they’re a dime a dozen and Toyota reliability. Got good mileage too

I’ve been DD’ing a 98’ Cherokee for the last 3 years with all seasons/4wd. I have never had a single issue with getting stuck or even coming close to “flipping” it. Not to mention they actually made Cherokees that are RHD for the sole purpose of mail delivery.

my Honda element AWD is a tank in the snow. with snow tires I was driving through multiple feet high drifts no problem. also, the rear seats fold up or come out completely and the floor is flat for cargo -

http://www.cargurus.com/images/site/2013/05/26/15/55/2006_honda_element_ex-p-pic-2891327461973159839.jpeg

the only downfall would be gas (high teens to low 20’s city, especially in snow) and finding one. they have kind of a cult flollowing. CRV would be your next best option.

the EX trim level is AWD. lx and dx are fwd. it was also offered in 5 speed manual, both FWD and AWD.

also, mine is closing in on 160k with just basic maintenance done over my ownership of 80k miles. just brakes and tires and fluid changes. I plan on driving it for another 150k. its crazy reliable. I let my friend borrow it to pick up a motor in philly last week haha. not a hiccup. I hadn’t driven it in weeks lol.

EDIT - I just read the under $2k part. yeah that’s not going to happen. you could probably find an element for 5k, late 90’s CRV’s can be had for around 2k if you look hard enough.

With snow tires, I was perfectly fine this past winter…

Hmmm.

Problem with a pickup is that even with an enclosed cab, I would have to run back and forth between the back and front. How are Subaru Forresters? Do they all have that head gasket issue? I try to think $2k because the vehicle is abused either way, and I destroy the value as well with the miles.

if only you had more money to spend… (this is a crazy price btw lol)

http://toronto.craigslist.ca/tor/ctd/5161517076.html

Subaru, Toss a cheap lift in and good tires.

I’ve had a few Subarus - good cars, great traction, decent gas mileage, cheap. They aren’t that popular in WNY, but get out to New England and they are everywhere - seems every 3rd car is a Subaru. They require timing belts after a certain point - not that bad of a job. I didn’t have any head gasket issues, but I think that was more of an issue with specific years/models. Don’t over heat it, keep up on the oil/maintenance, and they all ran great. I’ve also had an older CRV with over 200k - had to re-do head because of a burnt valve , but solid small SUV. I’ve also had Jeep CJs, TJs, YJs - those would not be on my short list for this type of route.

Maybe take a look at other costs - brakes, wheel bearings, exhaust. I thought the Subaru’s were cheap to maintain. The CRV a bit more. Even better, maybe look at how many are for sale - can you buy another quickly to swap parts or a spare? This is what the old mail Jeep drivers did - just buy extra parts or complete jeeps for spares.

vote Xterra, mines taken a beating, and i drove around during the November storm in south buffalo thing is a tank in the snow.
for decent MPG your looking for a audi or subi though i think.

My audi’s where always great. a 00 or 01 Audi A4 with a 2.8 and 5 speed are really bullet proof for an audi.

For the money it’s tough to beat a Crv. They hold up well, get ok gas mileage and good in snow with an AWD one. High miles are not a big deal if it’s maintained well.

Snowmobile?

Dodge caravan

Snow tires never got me stuck in ANY FWD vehicle.

http://buffalo.craigslist.org/cto/5134827832.html

^I bet you can fit a ton of sunday papers in there!!!

Sounds to me like a mini van with snows is your best bet.

these are great in the snow, I used to drive a sw2 as my winter car back and forth from buffalo to Batavia every night. Never got stuck. As an added bonus the motors for these are dirt cheap should you ever blow it up. The DOHC is a direct swap in, just change the ecu.

Yup! Thanks!

Now come buy the damn thing before I leave for my trip this weekend, lol.