Which do you think is a better turbo, and why?Also for Eagle H-beam rods how much horse power do you think they could withstand in a B18 for a weekend warrior. I bought a set a while ago, and now I’m told they only hold good for no more then 400hp. Man i should have done some research before i emptied my wallet on these :headbang.
How much power do you want to make? Eagle rods do not become a problem at 400+hp, sounds like typical ricer hearsay. There are alot of rods I like better but I gotta say the damn things hold up well.
looking for around 550 to 600 at the wheels.
whats the rest of your setup?
i doubt youll have a problem with the eagles. the t3/t67 is a better turbo for peak power than the gt35r, but you can expect later spool times, and a less reponsive turbo between shifts. the 35r is a smaller turbo, which is one factor in spool time, but it is also a more advanced and efficient design. the gt35r is good for about 630-650whp, while the t3/t67 is capable of 650-700whp depending on which exhaust wheel is being used.
like mafdark asked what does the rest of the setup look like?
Ed @ forcefedengineering made 676whp on a 1.8t engine, using a T3/T67DBB, no sure of the boost, but it was a built AEB(big port) head, CAT 3652 cams, Autronic SM4, tuned by Kevin Black(lugnutstuning.com) revving to 9.x00rpm… spin clean in 4th gear on street tires. :banana
Define “better”?
i think for a big power, but more streetable turbo, the GT35R would be “better” but for racing and ocassional street use, the t3/t67 would take the cake since it spools later but makes big power up top where it matters at the track… its up to the end user which is better though, because it depends where you want power more, and how you drive it
iirc, frankiebonez is running the t3/t67 but i am not sure. deffinatly a monster turbo.
35R’s are sweet. i want one :nod
FP GT35RHTA fit’s the “best of both worlds” bit(theoretically). FP has claimed over 700whp worth of airflow from that compressor and yet quicker spool characteristics than the standard Garrett trim. I’ve yet to see a map myself though.
Rest of set up shall consist of, ported head, turbo cam(not sure what brand i want to go with quite yet), cam gears,valves etc. for the head, ported GSR intake mani, Full-Race exhaust manifold, 44mm waste gate most likely, custom 3 inch downpipe, Apexi cat back 2.5 inch exhaust,JE 9:5 pistons, and AEM EMS.
You should definitely talk to the guys at synapse to see what kind of setups they put into their high horsepower Hondas. That 2.5" exhaust right there would severely limit your power. That ported GSR intake may not be the best either.
My buddy said that he can port to match a higher end intake manifold. He said he ported before they made the aftermarket intakes, so I’m trusting him.If not ill be spending money on a new one. You think that the 2.5 inch exhaust will really rob power to the point to where its a big deal?
Absolutely. 2.5" will murder your power if your looking at the range you are. Hell that will wreck the power band of anything over 200hp.
As for the intake manifold, for the big turbo guys everyone runs the edelbrock performer manifold. No ported needed.
its not just about how big the ports are its a lot about the design and flow of the manifold. runner length, plenum volume, etc…
at the 300whp weve tested a 2.5" to a 3" and picked up over 20whp. your car will not make 600whp on a 2.5" exhaust system. theres no reason to not do a 3" exhaust system anyway.
turbo cams on a typical b series vtec engine dont really make the best power. OEM gsr and ITR/CTR cams are an excellent choice, as well as aggresive all motor cams, like skunk2 stage 2 or skunk2 pro1’s.
Whats a good exhaust to go with do you think?
Custom
Kteller 3inch kit.
my buddy is getting his 35r “hybridized” at forced performance … he should be getting it back anyday.