Thanks, Mike. (D2 Coilovers)

NYSpeed Automotive
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i’m not so sure that this is a fair arguement.

yes they will lower you car and yes they will provide you with (for some applications) height, dampening and camber adjustability but these are of very minor consequence when you are trying to determine what is quality and what isnt.

Megan Racing coilovers are better for the money and they are the same price or cheaper.

Megan Racing coilovers are produced by:

http://www.bcec.com.tw/

the same facility that produces Apexi EVX coilovers. Megan is definately a more visible company and there is a reason why Megan has made far greater in-roads into the US market than D2 has even though Megan hit most people’s radar almost a year later… they are simply a better run company despite the fact that they dont produce a thing, D2 does (D2 manufactures for K-sport and i suspect they are building the Form and Function coilovers F2)

http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&from=R10&satitle=D2+coilovers&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&fmmk=&fmmd=&fylo=&fyhi=&mppfqy=D2+coilovers&sargn=-1%26saslc%3D2&sadis=200&fpos=ZIP%2FPostal&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&fsop=1%26fsoo%3D1&coaction=compare&copagenum=1&coentrypage=search

http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?cgiurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2F&fkr=1&from=R8&satitle=megan+coilovers&category0=

megan is cheaper…

however, i wouldnt quite recommend Megan either if you are serious about your coilovers.

check these threads out from Ziptied, a member’s only forum that is home to many Formula D drivers and is frequented by the likes of Kuah from SPL parts, Alex Pfeiffer of Battle Version… Nb8ct is from touge factory, the company that is handling Stance in the US, they are also the US HQ for Origin and Version Select…

http://www.ziptied.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9877

http://www.ziptied.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7355

warranty and other post-purchase support matter as does the longevity of the coilovers.

for a couple hundred dollars more than D2’s you can have some very serious coilovers… Stance, Tein HR, KTS, etc… Stance and KTS are serviceable by big specialty shops in the US where as D2, when i was dealing with them, was being handled by a company who gave me the impression they were not as ‘hardcore’ and more of a store.

also, i was working very closely with the canadian distributor and i can tell you that all he needed was 60 sets to get Canadian rights, it required no technical understanding and D2 did no screening to make sure they were properly represented over here…

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I’m not overly impressed with any coilovers i’ve seen and tested in the under $2000 range. I tell most of my customers to stick with a good lowering spring and koni yellows if available, but for those set on budget coilovers around 1000 bucks I haven’t seen anything I like better than D2s.

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Ohlins > Motons > JRZ > Ledas > most 1500-2500 “street” coilovers (laffo). Either get a matched spring / shock (for example, my cheap little e30, I put on custom H&Rs and properly valved Bilsteins) and save a bundle (do you really need to “corner balance” your freaking street car) or sack up and get something truly “Race” if that’s what you ACTUALLY do with the car.

Just like all-season tires, any compromise usually sucks in all areas.

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To add something else to the mix, I’m pretty happy with my Hot Bits coil overs. They’re not known to well in the US yet, but they’re huge in Australia which is where they are produced. The 20 way damping adjustment is great, and if Stance’s external resovoir set-up is any thing like theirs, it makes for an easy install.

http://photologue.dgoreck.org/albums/album86/Coil_Over_Install_005.sized.jpg

Hard to see in this next pic, but the start of the helper spring is on top of the gray spring. You can see the external resovoir next to the main strut as well.

http://photologue.dgoreck.org/albums/album86/Coil_Over_Install_023.sized.jpg

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ok those look nice. i still wonder how many people are just parts-assemblers vs doing research / having a shock dyno / knowing anything about valving or damping or rebound or ANYTHING.

edit: without sounding like a huge amateur, oh wait, I am, I’d rather (at this point) just drive the car / learn it as-is than learn to adjust IT vs me.

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I find it funny that people have xx-way adjustable coilovers and don’t even know how to set tire pressures properly. Or going in for an alignment and get factory specs.

Or how about the fact that most coilover spring rates are higher than the chassis spring rate for their car.

Personally the less settings to fuck with the more I can concentrate on driving.

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i put a set of hot-bits coilovers on to a car we did for a TV show, i also spoke with the guys who were distributing them in the US two years ago at Carlisle.

first-off… shitty name.

secondly, they suck balls, the set i had for the 240sx anyways.

the lower perch was fixed, meaning there was no height adjustability except with the spring pre-load which is ghey.

second, the external resevoir should not be mounted to the shock body like that… it should be more remote, hence the term remote-resevoir, for greater heat dissipation and to avoid clearance issues among other things.

*actually after looking through Ohlin’s catalogue they do mount the external cannisters like that for some applications so i retract that statement. but this is preferable.

http://www.indysuperbikes.com/Images2/ohlins/46HRCLS.jpg

i dont have any driving experience with Hot-bits though.

only pics i have of the hot-bits from the TV show are here:

on the shelf:

http://bings.ca/images/DSC02349.JPG

on the car

http://bings.ca/images/DSC02392.JPG

we were dissappointed with the features and as a result, the other team bought Megan Racing coilovers instead of Hot-bits despite the fact that hot-bits was a sponsor.

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ill take Ground Controls ans Konis

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i guess i made drama b4 work and missed it. the drop looks good n e ways

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^Low Looks great, but absolutely destroys the already not so good camber curve of the car.

On a strut suspension Once the lower L arms go past paralell and the rear trailing links go past the tangent the suspension geometry gets all effed up.

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dude your car looks like secks. saw it today on millerspot. i think you were headed to school(i was in the yellow st00k that flashed you)

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I didn’t see you pass me by otherwise I woulda flashed back.

I’m sorry that you did have a good experience with the coils by looking at and installing them bing. Driving around, they are great. Set on soft the ride is pretty managable, like driving around in an EVO MR. When I stiffen the dampening up the car definately reacts. If I make it to stiff I can easily dog leg it and I’ve had to turn them down at different auto-x’s because of this wheel lift.

The only coil I can really compare these to that I’ve actually had experience with are Tein Flex’s. A friend had them in his WRX with the EDFC and he hated them. They were noisy, didn’t handle that great, and overpriced. He sold the car with them on it and didn’t look back.

I do agree with you though, very shitty name. When people ask me what coils I’m using I hate saying ‘Hot Bits’. It sounds sooo ghetto. But telling them they have an external resovoir sorta makes up for that. :slight_smile: It’s not just Ohlin’s that mounts them there in some applications btw, countless motorcycles have it like that also.

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external reservoirs are sick.

-the st00k has them stock. but then again it is the most ridiculous car i have ever driven and its not even that fast yet.

good choice :tup: