Eh? We might have met down the path b4, we used to ride at the trails all day or dig then head to town for some street riding every day n night. Hell i still have my oversized holmes that i rode traqls,street n raced nationals with:bowrofl: and still was number 2 at the lowest point national in my class,i love that frame. Still have the newer pushforks as well and super pros.old school FTW!