Why aren’t Trumpsters posting about the big health care win last night?
You guys should be happy about this. It may not look good now, but the fallout for republicans if this passed could have been horrendous.
Let’s take a quick flashback to 2009:
Very true, Mitch. Very true.
Yes because we know President Trump is Russian.
Homosexuality has scientific backing. Transgenderism does not exist physically, and is just a creation of the mind. That is a fact. This is based on all the psych/ sociology classes I’ve taken which are predominantly liberal, and the phenomenon cannot be explained scientifically. The basic argument comes down to whether or not we can regulate/control all the crazy/weird that people come up with. Even I will say that you can’t force them to stop the way they think.
At the end of the day though 1) The military can have any standards they want 2) The President changed it back to how it was for the 150 years or so before Obama. What’s extraordinary about it? The fact that he said he supported LGBT? He said he was going to repeal and replace Obamacare and instead has been backing healthcare bills that are only symbolic and have no substance to them if we go down the route of “Obamacare is an abomination”.
Anytime they bring up the “# of people who will lose insurance” , I would like to know if that up to 20 million people number is that same number added through Obamacare. If they lose insurance I could care less. We have another 300 million people living in the country who are on the losing end of that. There’s no reason that a family should be forced to pay such a huge fraction of their paycheck for insurance.
Really? Because gender-identity disorder is considered a mental disorder (by qualified experts). Do I think someone with diabetes couldn’t do the same work as someone who doesn’t have it? Nah. But it’s not up to me, it’s up to military brass to decide what medical disorders are disqualifiers.
And, I guess it depends who you’re speaking with while on base…what was their MOS? I’m sure people who are in the field have different opinions on this subject than people who ride a desk. I can’t speak to it, I’m just passing on what I’ve heard, straight from their mouths.
there is a strong case to be made on either side of the trans in the military issue. the stronger case in my mind still leans toward the military can do whatever they want. if you let liberals/leftists get too much influence in the military it would be bad for America and US interests abroad. Winning is more important than being inclusive.
with that said, i still prefer to stand back and admire the 4D chess aspect of all this. Trans rights are a losing issue politically. They are such a small portion of the electorate and they are not exactly a valued constituency. Trump can keep using them to make the Left pivot back to it instead of focusing on a winning agenda. It’s really smart politics.
In fact, pointing out or making a front and center political issue of this where the Left now has to either abandon the trans / military issue or suggest that the military should prioritize inclusiveness over effectiveness is playing right to Trump’s base and also pulls to those just outside of voting for him next time around… it will push those people further right, away from what the Left will do in support of trans people.
also, i caught this one today and it’s worth reading:
i agree that the Russia thing is all a smoke-screen and to hear someone like Chomsky lay it out so plainly is refreshing.
In Chomsky’s view, the meeting should rather be regarded as a responsible diplomatic gesture than an attempt at collusion, and media would serve the public much better by focusing on what’s going on behind the scenes of America’s most popular reality show.
Focusing on the long-spun Russian scandal instead of recognizing it as a diplomatic act is a big mistake, in Chomsky’s view.
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Sexual differentiation isn’t discrete. Sexual differentiation - Wikipedia
See my earlier post about transgender vs gender dysphoria. Is being transgender a mental illness?
And, I guess it depends who you’re speaking with while on base…what was their MOS? I’m sure people who are in the field have different opinions on this subject than people who ride a desk. I can’t speak to it, I’m just passing on what I’ve heard, straight from their mouths.
My point was that it’s anecdotal. I’ve talked with service men and women but they, like the people you spoke with, do not have a say in who gets to serve and who doesn’t.
Either way, nothing officially changed. So if something does change we can see people fight for transgender rights and I guaran-fucking-tee you that active service men/women will be fighting with them for their right to serve.
Discrete enough that you can call anything that falls in a “third” category as having a disorder. For example most people are born with all the organs while some have deficiencies. Some people are born with hormonal deficiencies etc. which have a scientific basis. Believing you are " a man trapped in a woman body" or vice versa is purely psychological. The argument for Homosexuality has always been that you are born that way and cant change it. Whereas any male or female can become Transgender at any point in their life if they choose to.
When parents take 6 year old kids who are still developing with many hormonal/emotional issues, and then even take seriously when their kids say they were “assigned” the wrong gender, they do severe damage to their kids. They are the ones that should be losing parental rights. Transgender/transsexuality is a pure fabrication of the mind. Even THEY do not deny this because most of the time they say that the issue is the classic/oppressive culture of putting things in categories and not allowing “the freedom to choose, to define”. It’s a pure emotional argument. In their world , ideally we would do away with gender all together. That is a fact.
Who am I to judge?
FTFY
Apparently those tweets and some about Sessions came out the morning that Manafort’s home was raided by the FBI. Just another 26D chess move…
The transgender military thing I didn’t really care either way until I saw that stat that transgenders as a group have a 42% suicide attempt rate. I’m sorry, but until that stat dramatically improves putting them in combat, the most stressful situation imaginable, where the lives of your fellow troops depend on you not losing your shit is a risk the military just can’t take. Sorry, the military isn’t an equal opportunity employer. They can deny you for hundreds of reasons because they have to select people they can trust to survive in war. Serving in the military is not a right.
Totally a distraction:
… The [seized] documents included materials Manafort had already provided to Congress, said people familiar with the search.
“If the FBI wanted the documents, they could just ask [Manafort] and he would have turned them over,” said one adviser close to the White House.
lol. So we get another story about nothing. Notice that this leak to the Washington Post wasn’t that the documents seized had any significance, just that documents were seized. And seized in a dramatic way that plays to the emotions of the reader with a flashy headline. Then when you consider we’re getting a leak about this 3 weeks after it happened one can really only conclude that they found nothing damning.
I don’t think we can conclude anything. I’m not really trying to make the raid a big deal, just that the timing of his tweets was likely to distract from the fact that it happened. We both agree that there are underlying meaning to his tweets.
People were running head lines like this
“Donald Trump authorized Russian military jet to fly over the Pentagon, US Capitol and CIA.”
About
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Which has been happening since 2002 with 1200 flights so far…
There is nothing sensational about that article. It begins by explaining the treaty:
An unarmed Russian Air Force aircraft overflew the US Capitol, the Pentagon, Central Intelligence Agency and Joint Base Andrews at low altitude on Wednesday as part of a longstanding treaty that allows the militaries of the United States and Russia to observe the other from the air, according to two people familiar with the flight.
The flight was part of the Treaty on Open Skies, which allows military aircraft from the United States and Russia and other nations to fly aerial observation flights to observe military sites of the 34 signatory nations.
And then even states EXACTLY what you said:
The Open Skies Treaty has been in effect since 2002 and over 1,200 flights have been conducted since…
-Complains about sensational main stream media.
-Makes sensational posts about articles that aren’t sensational.
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There were several articles that got re-titled yesterday :tspry:
So why did you post this 24 minutes ago?
So there have been 1200 of these flights since 2002 and we’ve never seen anything about it in the MSM media, especially not as some scary headline story. Not once, and I look at BBC, Fox and CNN every day.
Yesterday multiple MSM outlets ran headlines about Russian jets flying over the capital, some of them going as far as say “Trump authorized flights” right in their headlines.
Yet you sit here making excuses for the MSM not being about sensationalizing any bullshit as long as they can spin it against Trump. I’ve honestly been making an effort just to ignore you in this thread but this really needed to be pointed out.
Because it was funny?
Also coming here to post shit in this thread isn’t high on my daily priority list.
The specific article he posted didn’t sensationalize anything and only mentioned Trump to state that the jet flew over his location as well. So don’t put words in my mouth.
You want to blast the media, go ahead. I’ll do it with you. But posting a non-sensationalized article to push your own agenda while blasting others for pushing theirs? Don’t be a hypocrite.
Also, I can see why this would get more attention than normal considering the current climate and AN ACTIVE FBI INVESTIGATION INTO THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN AND COLLUDING WITH RUSSIA. Do you seriously have trouble seeing why the media would be more inclined to bring it up more now than previously?
Either way, it’s non-news. I immediately ignored it when I saw it. The ‘spin’ versions weren’t posted in this thread. So who gives a fuck?
Oh and @JayS - Where’s a good source for political news?
From now on I will screenshot articles :lol:
It’s obvious from JayS that other people saw the exact same news titles that I did yesterday.
