ya true but in a way, now that i think about, since i have a sohc, i really dont need tires with that much grip, like he specified in a previous post above ^^^ … im jus gonna stick to 215/55/R16 with the federal 595s n thats it … im NOT doing anything to this car like an sr swap or anythin, personally i think its a waste of money, thats why im not going with top notch tires