well, you chose to defend the quality of toyo in a performance category, so in that respect, i dont think you are autocrossing in winterforces, so there goes that comparison :cjerk:
he compared a proxes4 with an azeni…usually when people suggest a falken azeni tire in a comparison, its being used in a competitve or at least aggressive method, in which falkens excel. to rate a toyo proxes 4 as a performance tire, it simply does not rate well…simple enough? if he wants a longer lasting tire that rides quieter, he should not be considering an azeni. so with the given parameters of his question, i think i answered it very simply, whereas you chose to bring into the discussion a completely different tire. with your method of justifying toyo as a good tire, i could say the bridgestone re92’s that come factory on subarus must be as good as an re070