i like the s4. however, if you plan on having people sit in the back all the time, its cramped.
If you want something bigger and and the same 2.7biturbo motor go with the a6 or audi allroad. here’s one for 20k http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/01-2001-LOADED-HEATED-LEATHER-BOSE-XENON-AIR-SUSPENSION_W0QQitemZ4568521965QQcategoryZ80731QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
:scared: the more i read about teh 2.7t the scarier it gets… boost leak out the ass, blown turbos, more leak, new dv, bigger injectors… more leak. :scared:
the more i read the better the ‘buy a 1.8t’ advice sounds, but the S4 is sooooo choice 
idk what to think.
i think 2.7t in the s4 problems is mainly caused by cooling issues. that engine bay is just too small for that big ass twin turbo engine.
thats what kept me away from s4’s
s4’s have cheap parts but are a bitch to work on for some of the easy stuff…
my boss had the volvo s80 twin-t 6… it was pimp… i loved that car… .then again he spent like 450 on an ABS module and like 900 for a ecm… so remember it’s a volvo with volvo priced parts.
a quattro 1.8t audi would be cheapest and still ok inside…
i’d consider a saab 9-3 2.0t! as well… but for big baller luxury stuff, i’d go wth an audi probably
seems liek there’s alot more 1.8t out there compared to 2.7t… stands to reason thats the same with the aftermarket
i’d venture to say the 1.8t aftermarket is greater than the 2.7… no doubt.
just throwing this one out there but maybe you could get into a used 3-series for less than 20k
not with AWD though they’re still outta my price range for the most part. plus i don’t want 20 something rich kids coming over to talk to me bc we both own bimmers (cept daddy didn’t buy mine) :greddy: remind me to post about the kid in my nhood that drives a NSX, sl500, h2, amongst others
no knock on u dgrmac 
you’re kinda cool for a bmr drvr:bigok:
is it a black NSX? sounds familiar…
y i think so, i guess his dad owns a club or a bar or something like that?
marrow???/
good thing you added that last part, haha, I am paying for my own car.
haha 