and whats your background in politics? they teach politics indepth in highschool now? do you have a political science degree?
Murrdog is a senior in college, not high school.
Well number one, im a sophmore in college and number two I have studied politics and philosophy… Im not expert, but I definitly feel more competent than other people.
Tuesday should be interesting
did you bring your coat?
:wtf
I live in a giant bucket!
i didnt say you were in highschool, so good job assuming it. but i know you arent a beyond the initial stages of learning it. reading a political column in the new york times is much different that having real world experience dealing with the subject matter and discussion topics. maybe someday youll be very knowledgable in the political field. and currently you might have a basic understanding of it, but people like Jammer deal with it quite often, i dont know Shawns involvment with politics, but i know he likes to push jammers buttons and has been doing so for a long while.
YESSS someone got it
yah… im a fan of noam chomsky, therefore I dont really trust any information I read in the newspapers… Im talking about the political classics. When you said you lived in politics for five years, do you say that because you were in the military?
oh yeah, its the work of politics at its greatest. you had to pay attention to what was going on in washington, everything that went on there decided what went on in the military
I know where your coming from… and I have spent many years of both life and in school surrounding the subjet, and I even worked for the Federal Government for a short time… nbut, of all this, evidence of living and observing, together with basic knowledge, I have formed views. Views that run soo deep it takes a lifetime to explain…and i am sure Shawn feels the same. We can’t explain what we want to say in one page, on book or one gig of text for that matter. I liken it to trying to teach diffyQ to someone who is just learning algebra…and to make it worse, only the author understands it. View creation is in the hearts of leaders and not followers. I respect creators.
That said, I care more at moments… just as Shawn does. I’m just not that interested in persuading… all I don’t like is mis-information… which is hard to argue when so many of us are only on the intellectual surface of it all.
Heres a really good description, though it be liberal, of one view about capitalism and the move swaying back and fourth of socialism in world history. Its a mild persuasion toward socialism as a necessity if you read into it, but generally good information to understand at least, one side of the story. It gets decent toward the end, where its more about current day amd less about the Soviets, though all is relative. Monthly Review | The Renewing of Socialism: An Introduction
Personally, I don’t really believe that just because someone is in the military they are knowledgable in politics. Their are a lot of unintelligent people in all branches of the military.
Chomsky is an admitted libertarian socialist intellectual. Hmmm, wonder if Ayers woulds liked him? Great, another socialist board member. Guys, see my point, we don’t even know it, but the country is flipping from capitalism , back to socialist ideals… this time I think its not a “wave”… but here to grow. That’s a bummer.
That said… its an interesting thought process… libertarian socialists place their hopes in trade unions, workers’ councils, municipalities, citizens’ assemblies, and other non-bureaucratic, decentralized means of action. Most libertarian socialists advocate doing away with the state altogether, seeing it as a bulwark of capitalist class rule.
Def: Libertarian socialism is a group of political philosophies that aim to create a society without political, economic, or social hierarchies, i.e. a society in which all violent or coercive institutions would be dissolved, and in their place every person would have free, equal access to tools of information and production, or a society in which such coercive institutions and hierarchies were drastically reduced in scope.[1]
He’s also a brilliant linguist who wrote manufacturing consent.
are you trying to prove something to me, because quite frankly, i dont care. as ive said time and time again. i dont discuss my political views, i will not engage in a conversation in regards to a political party or political view over a forum. its not what im interested in doing. and another thing, how do you know what type of people are in the military? have you served in a platoon, a company, a squadron, or anything in the military at all? have you? dont get me started on the military, you really dont want to offend me by picking at the military, unless you have served your country in honor, you have NO place to judge any military member or branch.
I know people who have served… and im not picking at the military, all i said was that just because someone served doesn’t make them wise in the political field, but if you dont wish to discuss political views than I have no reason to talk to you in this thread.
Doggy,
Well, since the rest of us are idiots, please preach… we’ll listen. We still have the liberty to expell our views…whether people like them, or even understand them. Only the cursed among us care…but we are who we are.
so youre judging me and my accreditation based off your “knowing people who have served” and your blanket statement in regards to military members’ knowledge, or lack there-of, of politics because some of the 1.3 million ACTIVE DUTY members and 1.1million RESERVE/Guard members might not know anything? thats cool.
When did I ever judge you personally?