Why buy a 140,000 house with 5-6k taxes ?
When you can buy a house somewhere else with 2k in taxes?
Health insurance is also cheaper outside of NYS/Buffalo for whatever reason along with gas/food and many other things.
We do have cheap electricity however my bill is always sub $50 so not a huge savings.
These issues are compounded by the red tape/hoops any business that wants to move here has to go through not even taking into account taxes on business.
This. This explains much of why our taxes are as high as they are. 8/
Big government is fine if they are facilitating a growing private sector…they aren’t.
Shouldn’t we try to get a team that can win and then try to build a stadium for them to play in? That statement, “If you build it, they will come…”, yeah that won’t work here…
You’ll never make it in government…you apply logic too well. 
With Buffalos luck this will get built by some miracle and then someone will move the Bills
I just keep coming back to the math. $1.4 billion?!?!?!? To me that equals 1400 $1,000,000.00 projects. I guess I have never been a big major league sports fan because that just seems like a terrible way to spend $1,400,000,000.00. I see it as one gigantic basket with all of WNYs eggs in it.
Ok a million dollars doesn’t buy as much in the public sector so let’s say 140 $10,000,000 projects. Think about That for a minute, seriously. 140 lake front projects. I understand the NFL funding wouldn’t be there but you get the idea.
Chiming late, but terrible idea.
1.) Tailgating would be destroyed. That’s the only reason many people go to the games. It’s certainly not the quality of the on field product. Inner-city stadiums have terrible or no tailgating. This is the only thing we’re in the top at the league at, don’t ruin it.
2.) Have you ever been down there in December? It’s a frozen wind tunnel. Good luck getting people to want to hang out down there.
3.) Sabres game traffic is as bad as Bills game traffic, with 1/5 the people. You did the math.
4.) It would price the people who give a shit about the team out of it. Think tens of thousands for bullshit personal seat licenses for the right to buy overpriced season tickets at at least 100% more than they cost now.
5.) I’m not paying higher taxes for it.
6.) We don’t have the logistics required to get a super bowl, which is one big reason why teams build stadiums with roofs. Not enough hotel rooms, airport capacity, infrastructure, etc. to support millions of visitors.
Taxes on my house in the city are over 7k 
But similar value ones in the burbs were around 12k I believe when I was looking. Our taxes on anything worthwhile are just plain high. While the entry cost of our houses is pretty fair there are certainly other areas to live equally as cheap when looking at total monthly payment. However there are also tons of areas that are not even in the ballpark of being as affordable.
^^Sabres game traffic isn’t bad? I’m on the 190 in about 5 minutes.
I guess it depends on the industry but for the call center and stuff here, $40,000+ a year without a real degree is pretty good.
I still feel Ralph needs to let the team go and then new management takes over. We will never be good under Ralph Wilson and until the team is under control of people who are self aware and know football, we will continue this awful streak.
You gotta remember NYS would only be footing 1/3 of the bill. $400m is a lot but not the end of the world. You guys are making it sound like it would ruin the city.
The other strange thing is that I cant believe in all these talks (radio, news, etc) is that nobody has mentioned that you can have a brand new NFL stadium for probably 1/3 of the cost. Pittsburgh biult theirs 10 years ago for $370m today dollars. Its a pretty basic stadium but its modern and gets the job done. Wind and cold would be an issue so a dome over there may be necessary but the Lucas Oil Stadium in Indianapolis was built 5 years ago for $800m… Would this sound better if it could be had for say $900m???
Not knowing the future of the bills seems like a key issue.
I love the complaints about traffic. I believe thats the least of our worries. We in Buffalo are spoiled when it comes to traffic. Whats it like leaving some of these other NFL/MLB/NHL events in other cities? I’m sure traffic is a bitch. Shit look at just trying to get in and out of Toronto without having a concert/hockey/baseball game.
Isn’t this proposed for the outer harbor? The inner harbor where the waterfront stuff is would be madness getting out of but isn’t the outer harbor down route 5 and a bit outside the skyway clusterfuck? Either way, they would also need to really revamp that in/out of the city. They want people to go to that area and draw tourists but its a pain to get around down there with events going on.
People tend to deal with traffic, because it’s worth it. Charlotte has it’s stadium in their downtown area, and people tailgate there and traffic is a non-issue. Although, tailgating isn’t as big there as it is in buffalo. People will find a way to make it work though. Where there is a will, there is a way. We tailgated in a private parking lot in downtown Charlotte at the Panthers/Bills game a few years ago. It was a great time.
The rendering on the news site showed it just above that little inlet that looks like a thumbs up fist.
lol @ people calling a downtown stadium a “huge win for Buffalo”.
Yeah, those 8 days a year there would actually be people downtown. Woohoo, 8 days, WINNING, rub some tiger blood on the stadium and shit! Of course it would only be the people there for the game because everyone else would avoid the area like the plague on game day just like people avoid anywhere near the Ralph currently.
Like BED said, 140 10 million dollar projects for downtown would be such a better investment.
It’s going to be the skyway all over again
“Why did we stick this on our water front”
I agree for the most part. The hockey games combined with the lacrosse games at First Niagara are probably a far better benefit.
I will add, though, that it would make for a great concert venue in the off-season (aka, summer time), which would bring some folks in. Probably only a handful of events though.
Since your not in buffalo anymore
They did build a new concert area on the water front Edge fest and many other events were held there this year…
We don’t get many stadium filling acts to make it worth it they can barley fill HSBC Arena(First Niagara whatever it is this year) for most concerts.