So my head may need to be welded because the detonation. The detonation marks on Cylinder #1 through #3 (#1 being the worst, #2 med and #3 very minimal) are right on the headgasket seal. He decked the head a bit and they’re still there and #1 will still be there when the head is decked to the max limit I think.
Anyone have their head welded before and how did it hold up? I track my car alot and am worried it may not hold up well?
It will more than likely crack again and again. Aluminum and stainless steel can be very hard to repair without ever seeing a crack again.
Especially if the piece is under high stress. Such as this.
I would be very weary of it. I would expect it to crack again. The welder and machinist may get lucky and it never cracks again.
I see aluminum and SS crack all the time. More often then not the piece is discarded.
Went to the shop to snap some pictures and tell Darryl the specs.
Limit on my head is 0.008" since my block isn’t being decked. He took of 0.007" so far. Here are the pictures. Hes going to cold tig weld it and deck it to 0.010" he hopes.
it can be welded. i have seen it done many times in jamacia at my cousins shop. BUT this is because it is nesessary. the down time and cost to replace the head is very high in jamacia. you don’t have this problem as sr heads are pretty common and realitivly cheap in canada. you just had a guy offer you a head for cheap in this thread. don’t risk it and just get another one.
Hey Happy240SX, would you mind pm’ing me the details on that head?
If you’ve seen my rebuild thread in this section, you’ll see why.
I’m in need of some parts to say the least…
I’ve had a few head welded before for a circle track race car. Never one for a turbo application though.
Providing it’s prep’d properly and pre-heated before welding it should be okay. If your still worried about the strength post weld heat treating is your best bet to make sure everything is back to speck (as mentioned above) then have the head deck by your engine builder again.
The head was welded on the milling machine. If the head was to be preheated in an oven then taken out and by the time it was set up the alum would have cooled down. Plus the cost factor of all that. Would then be way cheaper to buy a new head.
He ended up welding it and taking off 0.009" total. 0.001" over tolerance. I’m going to assemble the motor with the OEM headgasket and see if the valves hit by cranking the motor by hand. I’m currently looking for a thicker headgasket. If I’m feeling ballzy and the valves don’t hit free handing it I might slap the motor back in the car and see what happens since the car is done for the season.
Welded aluminum changes state, the heat area looses it’s hardness, in this case a ‘T’ rating, it Will season back to a ‘H’ or half hard but it will be weaker then the rest of the head, normalizing then re heat treating will bring it back an equal ‘T’ harness.