You look for validation from SON. He doesn’t. And there’s way too much Civic/Honda bashing here. Have you ever seen how much ass those things can kick? Any of you should go up to the black EG hatch at BE days and call him a ricer. Then see what he calls you after he passes you in your 500whp built RWD. There’s some serious cars that go to those track days, but the 3 fastest are FWD Hondas. And it’s not an HP thing either, they’re killing it in the corners.