Is any one brand better than another? I am looking at a few and have not been able to make a decision. Pro’s and Con’s on any particular one would be helpful.
AEM is the best value IMO. Integrated controller.
I think autometer is cheap.
Innovative has been having way too many issues and doesnt include gauge.
http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2007/06/WidebandShootout/index.php
here was an article that someone posted on another board im on.
EDIT a few weeks ago it didnt require a subscription… now it does, bummer. basically AEM and innovate were the most accurate.
I have a techedge 2A0 (www.wbo2.com) i built mine as a DIY kit. it cost me under 200$ including a sensor from www.1stvwparts.com (used to be 37$ 3 years ago) minus a display but i use a palm pda as a display. works great. excellent features: 3 0-5v datalogging inputs, 3 k type thermocouple inputs, rpm and afr logging.
Brian
ive had the lm1 for over a year now great tuning tool also has the option of graphing 5 other analog sensors its a graet piece i have yet to use it to the fullest
Innovate wideband is a faster reading unit than the AEM and has larger range but you can’t beat a built in gauge/controller. I would say that the AEM is probably your best bet because when the car is lower than 10.0 AF it’s rich. Plain and simple you should never be that rich tuning on gasoline.
funny you say that. my speed runs 9:1 from the factory.
leaning out to even 11:1 would gain SO much more usable power. :tif: mazdaspeed
If you’re interested in an Innovate LM1, a friend of mine is selling a used one for a good deal.
How the hell can it run 9:1 on the factory tune. It would just fowl the plugs every time it ran… If that is true, thats simply retarded.
I like my PLX M300. I’M able to log it with my tuner. I have it hard wired and installed in the car so I can see whats going on all the time.
I’d be interested. I’ve been concidering one or a FAST dual sensor set up
:tup: to PLX & the avatar
ive tuned mine to 12.5 :1 with almost no et/mph gain on the spray
ive been running between 9.5-10.5:1 tune last time out went 9.24@150
really? neat. :tspry:
How long could you expect the wideband sensor to last if you leave the innovate or aem sensor installed?
A year of daily driving easy… with a proper tune. Widebands don’t like to be ran long on anything richer than 11.8, but you should only be that way for wot and you don’t drive a car in wot daily without a mullet.
Do you have an egt gauge? Timing has a big part in power as you probably know. Without an egt gauge or a dyno its very very hard to tune timing properly.
To answer your question AEM or Innovate are awesome units… you can datalog with the aem gauge if you have a way to record the 5v output.
naa no egt timing is conservative at about 27 total no pepper on plugs dyno sucks because of the stall but gives good baseline runs
Not true, many factory turbo car run rich AF WOT, high load, in boost. No problem fouling plugs because the AF isn’t 9:1 at idle or part throttle
Dsmlink records the 5v output correct? Does dsmlink work any better or worse with one as opposed to the other?