This is going to sound stuck up but…I am only doing the big events with the scirocco, national tour, div’s etc. Probably won’t bring it to local events, due to dificulty of loading, waste of gas, etc etc on and on…
Another one bites the dust-ah!!
I remember seeing this car last year at the Clifton park center event
Yeah that was our first event there, kinda small but it’s a spot. I was scrubbing in my new hoosiers that day…2nd fastest time of the day…Andy beat me by .001
Looking good tom.
Is that pic with the ball joint spacers installed or no? I was thinking it would be lower.
You going to paint mars red over the black?
About the suspension limiting straps…
When the spring leaves the seat, the force on the tire is zero. Which means the tire is doing nothing. The straps will not change this.
However, we could pre-load the springs at a given ride height, resulting in a higher initial stiffness with the same rate. This would appear to make the car turn in harder, and have loss total roll, which may keep more tire on the ground when cornering.
We can discuss this at length sometime. You might want to ask someone with extensive race car setup experience for good pre load values for a strap limited suspension system.
I think a bit of initial pre load would make a very fun car for you, but the transitions will be faster. I don’t know if the car would become unsettled in a highly dynamic bus stop for example.
Adam? Morgan?
Well the straps stop the control arm from dropping too far aff of the seat…but i only have 3 inches of droop.
compressed…
uncompressed…
It is optional you know
PS–Going to need your BMW knowledge soon.
The thing i worry about John is that at places like lime rock where the weight will come off the front end the tire wont stay on the road…the car will go in the air and so will the tire because it can’t come down. This worries me a little in high speed sweepers in case the front wheel lifts under hard body roll. Causing me to lose grip mid-corner…and we know this too be very bad…
I know my knowledge is limited --but shouldn’t you be fixing the back end of the car then? (suspension)
It is? :lol I’ll be there, Chatterbox and all, just going to share my feelings of dread with Shift518 first.
New project? Do tell.
With your current setup, you have too much travel, and the DS actually hits the frame, which clearly is bad.
The limiting cables DO fix that problem.
I don’t think they create any additional problems either. In essence all race suspensions have travel limits, it is just usually the bottom of the shock travel and not a strap. Your shocks are too long, and this strap fixes that problem.
So then you just need to think about what happens when you are using the cables. All the cable does is absorb the force which would previously have been absorbed by the axle pushing on the frame.
The only time these straps will effect the handling of the car is when the car is at full front drop. This will only happen to the inside wheel when turning at the limit. And when turning at the limit you have very little pressure on your inside wheel anyway. So even if you reach the suspension travel limit, your force on the tire goes from very little to zero, which is not that big of a change.
Now if you have a considerable preload on the strap at full droop, there will be a more drastic change, but I don’t think it would upset the handling of the car. It might even help, or you might not even notice.
Now the execution of these cables is a sketchy. I would not have used that type of cable clamps. They are OK but they have bolts sticking out really close to the tire. I’m also not cool with that steel cable floating around in the wheel well either. I have no doubts that this will find its way over to the tire at some point, which will not be good.
You would probably be better off with a nylon strap material like a seat belt or racheting strap material. Weld on one of those buckle/loop things to each end and now you have an adjustable strap that is not metal. This nylon strap would be much safer if it were to rub the tire. You could also put a big rubber band on the nylon strap to pull it away from the wheel but not interfere with it.
John, John, JOhn…sometimes you kill me. This is a better design than most…and what you cant see with the tire off is that there nowhere near the tire. On to pictures of the spacers installed and on the ground…
The Splitter…
Those are the ballerest flipped scirocco endlinks i have ever seen.
Like Tupac, I Ain’t mad at ya…
It is a nice bump steer correction kit…those sleeves work really well. Once the loctite dried…
Tom, you know the bleeder on your brakes is on the wrong end of the caliper?
Yeah…kinda makes sense that it’d be at the highest point of the caliper, no?
Jeff…your a silly one. There are bleeders at the top and bottom of those calipers, you just can’t see them in the picture.
ok, I just remember Jim Garry having an issue with air in the caliper twice last year.
I think most Wilwoods do. Probably so they can make one caliper for both sides of the car = cheaper.
:rofl
Just saw pedobear on the windshield :rofl