You will take the time to post, but you won’t read the topic - then you have the audacity to call half of those who voted for the rep. candidate inbred simpletons, while you cannot comprehend a simple post.
You’re a piece of work.
Oh how anyone can interpret written word in any way they choose.
I don’t think he said half of the people who voted for MacDaddy are inbred simpletons. I think he said that half OF the inbred simpletons who voted for the MacMan…
And he never gives a number or percentage of voters for McCain who are inbred simpletons, so we don’t know how many half of that is.
Although each day I believe the number of actual simpletons, inbred or not, to rise higher and higher as I read some of the BS propaganda passed on in mass emails and letters to the editor. Like the guy in the Post-Gazette who claimed the country’s 3 biggest disasters to be Pearl Harbor, 9/11, and the electing of Obama.
I can agree with that.
Pearl Harbor and 9/11 were definately up there and only time will tell if the election of Obama will rank up there. I hope I am wrong but I guess we will see in a few years.
you sir are a canoe. Constructed of 100% top quality douche. You think Obama is going to f uck things up, but it was McCain 1.0 who, and I cannot stress that you understand this enough, DROVE THE COUNTRY INTO THE F UCKING GROUND!! It was George W. Bush who turned this country as sharply toward Socialism in history. You all act like Obama is the one who presided over the largest loss of wealth in the history of f ucking history. But not before the Bush economy let gas get up to $4.50 a gallon. That few trillion dollars we spent in Afghanistan and Iraq sure would have made for a nice tax cut, or built a few nice elementary schools. Or a giant f ucking bonfire. Has we chose ANY of those alternatives, there’s be about 4,000 families here in the states that didn’t have to lose a loved one. And how many tens of thousands without limbs?
But it’s Obama we have to fear. 
Priceless.
Darkstar, pull your head out of your ass.
Obama = secret moooslim terrorist.
end of thread.
time will tell.
The freedoms you have and slowly going to be taken away. I know Bush started it, everyone hated GW, but obama is another step in the wrong direction. Prices of everything will go up under obama and taxes will still be high, face it, you ****ed up voting for this chump.
If Darskstar is a libertarian, why is he so bent on sticking up for Obama?
cause he is not a real libertarian. No real libertarian in their right mind would even consider backing obama, it’s the opposite end of the spectrum.
Exactly. Obama’s politics are near being the polar opposite of libertarianism.
So what are you basing this on, your magic 8 ball? :ugh:
I am basing my opinion on the exact same thing you are basing yours on, nothing. You think he will do good, I think he will do bad.
Darkstar, keep picking and choosing which posts to respond to. You’re doing a good job of dodging the ones that actually address you and/or require any type of comprehension.
I dislike a lot of his policies, but I like his foreign policy, I like the fact that he will instantly restore a great deal of the international standing we have lost under the Bush administration. If he can pull off the Universal healthcare system, and do it efficiently and without waste, then I’m all for that. I’m for his tax cuts, I think he really does strive for a strong middle class. He wants to pull out of the NAFTA, which I like.
I mean, it’s not like I was wearing an Obama flag all through this election. I mean I offered to let people shoot me with paintballs to raise money for Ron Paul… remember? :hsugh:
As I previously stated, I’m not dredging through your drivel. Post whatever proof you want me to look at and I’ll address it.
The reason that things will go up is because unlike Bush, Obama is inheriting a clusterfu(k of a mess, not a surplus. If you were paying attention to see what the Rep. want to do about our ‘recession’ is cure it by inflation. Which is just dumb to begin with.
MBH-he isn’t responding to your dumbfound propaganda and already answered it once. Let me quote it for you since you obviously didn’t read it:
I dislike a lot of his policies, but I like his foreign policy, I like the fact that he will instantly restore a great deal of the international standing we have lost under the Bush administration. If he can pull off the Universal healthcare system, and do it efficiently and without waste, then I’m all for that. I’m for his tax cuts, I think he really does strive for a strong middle class. He wants to pull out of the NAFTA, which I like.
That’s all wonderful, and all completely opposite of libertarian ideals. A libertarian into universal health care? argh
I mean, it’s not like I was wearing an Obama flag all through this election. I mean I offered to let people shoot me with paintballs to raise money for Ron Paul… remember?
Which is why I’m completely confused by your recently prObama posts.
Maybe it’s because I can think for myself, and decide how I feel about a particular issue rather than let my party’s stance on it decide for me?
:dunno:
There are some things about the Libertarian party I don’t like. Like unfettered free trade and lax regulations on certain aspects of our economy.
I’m not a big fan of Obama but I’m also not a witch-hunter. It will for sure to be interesting to see what comes of all of this, but I don’t really care about it.
I hope the next 4 years work out. I’m not too fond of the idea of universal healthcare, but time will tell who is right.
notice that people directly address darkstar being a libertarian yet supporting Obama. Darkstar doesn’t mention a thing, yet continues to post in the thread. Edit: I’ll eat my own words, he responded.
He also managed not to comprehend what I was saying in any of the previous posts I made, but that is beside the point.
regarding “my” “conspiracy theory” - I guess Alan Keys doesn’t see things much differently.
http://open.salon.com/content.php?cid=44227
It’s the birth certificate issue again.
Alan Keyes, 2008 American Independent Party candidate, filed a lawsuit in California Superior Court Friday challenging Barack Obama’s right to serve under the Constitution that specifies that candidates for the presidency must be “natural born” citizens of the United States.
The suit demands that Obama produce a certificate of live birth from a hospital in Hawaii to prove his status as natural born. More specifically, the suit petitions the State of California and it’s Secretary of State to withhold Californian’s electoral votes from Obama at its meeting of electoral delegates in December unless he can provide documentary proof of his “natural born” status.
The suit asserts that the Hawaiian hospital that claims it holds the certificate on file but will not release it has not provided sufficient evidence to show proof of “natural born” citizenship. Under Hawaiian law, a birth certificate can be issued in Hawaii if the parents are citizens of Hawaii but the child does not actually have to be born in Hawaii. The suit asserts that if this was the basis for issuance of Obama’s certificate it does not meet the requirement that he be a “natural born” citizen under the United States Constitution. Here is the portion of the petition for writ of mandate that makes that point of contention:
74. A press release was issued on October 31, 2008, by the Hawaii Department of Health by its Director, Dr. Chiyome Fukino. Dr. Fukino said that she had “personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Senator Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.” That statement failed to resolve any of the questions being raised by litigation and press accounts. Being “on record” could mean either that its contents are in the computer database of the department or there is an actual “vault” original.
75. Further, the report does not say whether the birth certificate in the “record” is a Certificate of Live Birth or a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth. In Hawaii, a Certificate of Live Birth resulting from hospital documentation, including a signature of an attending physician, is different from a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth. For births prior to 1972, a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth was the result of the uncorroborated testimony of one witness and was not generated by a hospital. Such a Certificate could be obtained up to one year from the date of the child’s birth. For that reason, its value as prima facie evidence is limited and could be overcome if any of the allegations of substantial evidence of birth outside Hawaii can be obtained. The vault (long Version) birth certificate, per Hawaiian Statute 883.176 allows the birth in another State or another country to be registered in Hawaii. Box 7C of the vault Certificate of Live Birth contains a question, whether the birth was in Hawaii or another State or Country. Therefore, the only way to verify the exact location of birth is to review a certified copy or the original vault Certificate of Live Birth and compare the name of the hospital and the name and the signature of the doctor against the birthing records on file at the hospital noted on the Certificate of the Live Birth.
and here is a picture of Obama’s birth cert and the article on factcheck.org
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/has_obamas_birth_certificate_been_disclosed.html
http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_3.jpg
notice the part where it states "Hawaii state law forbids the release of birth or marriage certificates to anyone but the persons named in the documents or their immediate relatives. This copy carries a date stamp of “Jun 6 - 2007” (which has bled through from the reverse side), and is, therefore, probably a copy obtained by Obama himself at that time. "
Let me break that down for you guys in a timeline.
1961 - Barack Obama was born in Hawaii
1967 - Obama moved to Indonesia after his mother’s Marriage to Saetoro
1967 - In order to expedite the immigration process for Barack, they changed the legal name on his Hawaiian Birth Certificate
1969 - Barack became Barry and he left it that way so that he could attend college as an Indonesia alien. This could have entitled him to certain Indonesian grants and other foreign student goodies.
So the question is why is Barack showing a birth certificate from 2007? That’s the real question. I’m going to assume that he may have done so using a legal name change back to Barack on his current birth certificate while at the same time he re-applied for citizenship back into the United States in preparation for the upcoming elections.
And, because all the name changes would be on file, that’s why they’re locked down. They will indicate all the name changes over the years.
Sorry for coming off as a conspiracy theorist. Read the information, evaluate it objectively, come to your own decision (and flame me for actually thinking outside of the box if that’s your style)
Maybe it’s because I can think for myself, and decide how I feel about a particular issue rather than let my party’s stance on it decide for me?
Sure, but the fact is Obama doesn’t seem to share ANY stances with the Libertarian party platform- I mean, virtually zero.
Given this, it’s confusing to read your seemingly very Pro-Obama posts.
Granted, I’m all for supporting the President, even if I didn’t support his campaign or previous stated positions, until he (or she someday) does something very disturbing to end my support, but your posts seem to go way beyond that and make you out to be a liberal Democrat, not a Libertarian.
We’d love to have him, if that were true.
Darkstar is generally a liberal regarding controlled substances, social issues, and foreign policy, and GENERALLY a conservative when it comes to money. He’s not a liberal Democrat, he’s a New England Republican.