There are some likely flaws with that approach.
If he was no longer a student, the program should rightfully stop spying on him.
Maybe I can start a new company that sells online training to angry people.
Then when I pay facebook to listen for " I hate those MF’s", you get to see an add for reverse FBI grooming?
Not a great advertisement for “Social Sentinel”.
“I’m going to shoot my grandmother”
“I shot my grandmother”
“I’m going to go shoot up the school”
Not one alert sent by the Sentinel. Wonder if the school can get a refund?
If the kid dropped out, he should not be part of the program, right?
I guess that could be one way to keep kids in school.
" We will forever monitor your social media for red flags unless you graduate". Then we will continue to monitor your social media for red flags anyway but not tell anyone because it’s super sketchy.
I don’t think he had officially dropped out. He was going less and less, but still a student I believe.
Anyway, in local shooting news. Looks like the conspiracy that the Buffalo shooting was another FBI setup just had a TON of fuel dumped on the fire:
Law enforcement agencies in Buffalo are investigating whether a former federal agent knew in advance an 18-year-old white supremacist was going to attack the Tops on Jefferson Avenue, multiple sources told News 4.
This story was first reported by The Buffalo News. Law enforcement sources with direct knowledge of the investigation told News 4 the former federal agent was among a small group of people to have regular interactions online with the gunman.
Nothing to see here, just the FBI grooming another terror plot, just the like the Whitmer kidnapping.
From the Buffalo News:
Law enforcement officers are investigating whether a retired federal agent had about 30 minutes advance notice of a white supremacist’s plans to murder Black people at a Buffalo supermarket, two law enforcement officials told The Buffalo News.
Authorities believe the former agent – believed to be from Texas – was one of at least six individuals who regularly communicated with accused gunman Payton Gendron in an online chat room where racist hatred was discussed, the two officials said.
The two law enforcement sources with direct knowledge of the investigation stated these individuals were invited by Gendron to read about his mass shooting plans and the target location about 30 minutes before Gendron killed 10 people at Tops Markets on Jefferson Avenue on May 14.
The News could not determine if the retired agent accepted the invitation.
“These were like-minded people who used this chat group to talk about their shared interests in racial hatred, replacement theory and hatred of anyone who is Jewish, a person of color or not of European ancestry,” said one of the two law enforcement officials with close knowledge of the investigation. “What is especially upsetting is that these six people received advanced notice of the Buffalo shooting, about 30 minutes before it happened.
“The FBI has verified that none of these people called law enforcement to warn them about the shooting. The FBI database shows no advance tips from anyone that this shooting was about to happen.”
Agents from the FBI are in the process of tracking down and interviewing the six people, including the retired agent, and attempting to determine if any of them should be charged as accomplices, the two sources with close knowledge of the probe told The Buffalo News.
The two sources did not identify the agent by name and could not confirm what federal agency he worked for.
The Buffalo FBI Office declined to comment on the investigation. The U.S. Attorney’s Office in Buffalo declined through a spokeswoman to comment.
Buffalo civil rights attorney John V. Elmore said it will be outrageous if it turns out that a former law enforcement officer had advance notice of the shooting and did nothing to prevent it.
“If he had advance notice, he had a moral obligation to get on the phone and try to notify someone about it,” said Elmore, who represents the family of Andre Mackniel, who was shot dead when he went to Tops to buy a birthday cake for his 3-year-old son.
Attorney Terrence M. Connors, who is representing several families who lost loved ones in the shooting, said: “As outrageous as this may sound, based upon what we are finding in our investigation, it is not surprising.” He declined to reveal the evidence his law firm has collected.
The New York Times reported May 17 that Gendron invited a small group of people into a private chat room on the messaging platform Discord to review his plan about 30 minutes before the massacre at Tops. The Washington Post reported two days later that 15 people accepted Gendron’s invitation into the Discord chat room and were able to review his plan and watch his live stream video as he committed the killings.
Federal authorities are investigating if the retired agent provided information to Gendron before he went on his shooting spree, the two law enforcement officials told The News.
In addition to law enforcement sources, two other individuals with knowledge of the mass shooting investigation have also confirmed that federal authorities are looking into the former agent’s relationship to the shooter.
The Sandman
FBI agents are also trying to determine the identity of an individual Gendron calls “Sandman,” and “Saint Sandman” in his lengthy social media diary that appeared on Discord 30 minutes before the attack, the sources said.
In the diary, Gendron indicates Sandman counseled him on manufacturers of AR-15 semi-automatic rifles and their quality. The shooter purchased and allegedly used that type of assault rifle in the rampage, which local authorities have said was fueled by his racial hatred.
In the document Gendron posted on Discord just prior to the shooting, he references Sandman three times.
In a passage dated May 2, he quoted Saint Sandman as saying: "When the time finally comes to deal decisively with a whole host of society’s problems, and not go to prison for it, you’ll know. Just be ready. You have spent your entire life, from the day you were born, right up to this very moment, reading this sentence, coming to where you are right now. Look around you. Are you content with where you are right now? Are you where you want to be? If so, continue to march. If not, what are you going to do? What’s your plan? Get and keep your mind, body, and spirit right. Pray. Lift. Run. Read. Shoot. And teach your kids to do those things.”
A third law enforcement source told The News they are aware of Gendron’s writings involving the quality of different rifles. The shooter ended up using a Bushmaster X-15, a version of the AR-15 rifle, police have reported.
Staff reporter Caitlin Dewey contributed to this report.
“retired” FBI officer
Maybe the last 5 years have jaded me but when I see “retired” and up to shady shit I just read it as “off the books”.
Bingo
apparently the same shit is true about the nova scotia shooter up here from early in Covid. i actually havent been following it myself but others have been telling me.
also, i am sure this forum is also on whatever list of potential white supremacist threats or whatever.
Ha… my aunt jokingly asked if I went to see Biden when he was here. I told her based on my meme posts I was almost certainly on some lists that would get me immediately removed.
i’ve sat in two interviews with new political parties in Canada/Ontario.
first Question: “What would make you a good candidiate for Party X?”
Me: “My resume is better than basically every politician, however, my social media history makes me probably also the highest risk candidate you could possibly have. If you’re not allowed to say it, rest assured, i’ve said it 50x in my own name on social media or on forums I pay out of pocket to keep running.”
Needless to say, there are no lawn signs with my name on them…
Police changing their story again:
Texas Department of Public Safety Director Steven McCraw said Friday, when asked why police at Robb Elementary School didn’t engage the shooter sooner, said “the on-scene commander at the time believed that it had transitioned from an active shooter to a barricaded subject.”
“A decision was made on the scene – I wasn’t there – that this was a barricaded subject situation, there was time to retrieve the keys and wait for a tactical team with the equipment to go ahead and breach the door and take on the subject,” he continued. “At that point, that was the decision, that was the thought process.”
McCraw later said “from the benefit of hindsight from where I am sitting now, that of course it was not the right decision, it was a wrong decision, very, there was no excuse for that.”
“I wasn’t there but I’m just telling you from what we know, that we believe there should have been an entry as soon as you can,” he added.
Oh, so you had no idea the shooting was still going on once he locked himself in that room. That’s a magically quiet AR he must have been using. I’ve fired an AR at an indoor range and been near one being fired. It’s uncomfortably loud, even with ear muffs.
you can hear the gun fire from where the cops were holding the parents in that one video, its sickening
This is a terrible story on two fronts. Obviously the terrible loss of death. Secondarily is that it could have easily been prevented.
shooter crashed his truck outside of the school and shoot at a funeral home. Cops were called.
cops arrived and the dude jumped a small fence and walked into an unlocked school
Terrible things start happening
parents arrived at the school, cops thinking about doing something, start putting parents in handcuffs/ tackled/pepper sprayed
boarded patrol went in on their own because they thought it was bs
If the school had single point entry, this kid would have at least been slowed down. If there was any level of security at the school this might not have happened. If the cops reacted quickly, some could have been saved.
it reinforces both sides of the arguement… the anti-gun lobby is obvious but on our side it reinforces that you cannot trust the state to protect you even when you call and the cicrumstances warrant it and they’re all standing there fully equipped being yelled at by on-lookers.
Laws, training, mental health evaulations, school security, school hardening, background checks, etc. will not replace the one thing that has all but vanished from our American society. Parents raising their children with respect, honor, a proper sense of right and wrong, and morals. You can’t put a price on them. You can’t buy them in a store. You can’t download them on an app and Amazon can’t deliver them in 2 days. Look at the the physical components of these mass shootings and ALL of them have been in place for decades. Look to see what has changed. It’s not hard. You see it every day and it’s blantanly obvious.
you are 100% correct but that is a difficult problem to fix and isn’t of any particular political merit… meaning, it wont help anyone get elected so the politicians wont even consider it.
And you are 100% correct. It is the harder path so it will be ignored and passed over in lieu of less costly and easier perceived options. Even when said options are ineffective because they will push them even harder…with no more results than previous measures.
No, people aren’t evil. Guns are.