camaro build V angry neighbor

the laws in tonawanda is slightly different that in cheektowaga. From what the police have said there is no specific time set. It is just a certain noise level, and depends how far someone wants to take a complaint. I have no interest in playing harbball with this guy. I don’t have time to waste thinking of ways to waste the police dept time/money to come to his house next time he throws a get together at his place. Or plays his radio loud in his house. I just want to get this fucking car done and lay some heat in front of his house.

edit: I didn’t finish my thoughts earlier in that post. We don’t have 8 cars. I own 2 which are on the road + one camaro that is in the garage. justin owns 2 that are on the road + 1 camaro in the garage. The only car that gets worked on it the camaro and sometimes my SHO.

I don’t live in a trailer, it is a 2 story house in tonawanda with a detached 3 car garage. The houses are close together though and the neighbors livingroom is in the rear of his house closest to the garage. If it bothers him so much he could take a step and close his windows or screen door once and a while. As far as I can tell he and his significant other work a day job and get home around rush hour. I don’t know when his kids get home but I think he has 2 teenagers… It is really strange but nobody at my house has ever met them before.

I assumed you were working on it in Cheektowaga.

nope

Tonawanda laws

The following acts are declared to be loud, disturbing or excessive noise in violation of this chapter:
A.

Keeping in any building or upon any premises any animal or bird which, by frequent or long continued noise [continuous for 10 minutes or intermittent for 30 minutes], shall disturb the comfort and repose of the general public.
B.

The use of any automobile, motorcycle or motor vehicle so out of repair, so loaded or in any manner so as to create excessive or unusual grating, grinding, rattling or other noise.
C.

The sounding of any horn or signaling device on any automobile, motorcycle or motor vehicle on any street or public place in the Town of Tonawanda, New York, except as a danger warning as provided in § 375, Subdivision 1, of the Vehicle and Traffic Law of the State of New York; the creation by means of any signaling device of excessive or unusual sound and the sounding of any such device for an unnecessary and unreasonable period of time; the use of any horn, whistle, or other device operated by engine exhaust, which results in any excessive or unusual sound.
D.

The making of any noise for advertising purposes in any street or public place, or by means of aircraft. The advertisement or calling attention to any advertisement, article, business, calling or profession upon any street, sidewalk or entrance to a place of business by means of any horn, megaphone, siren, bell, radio or any other sound-producing or sound-amplifying mechanism, instrument or device.
E.

The operation in or upon any automobile, truck or other conveyance upon any public street of any horn, megaphone, siren, bell, radio or any other sound-producing or sound-amplifying mechanism, instrument or device. This subsection shall not apply to the use of a horn, bell or signaling device when the same is necessary or required for the protection of persons or property or to any fire or police vehicle or apparatus or licensed ambulance when responding to any call, or to radio sets installed in motor vehicles, nor shall this subsection apply to a duly authorized public parade (parade of public interest, as contrasted with private parades conducted for commercial purposes).
F.

The operation of any store, stand, office building, cemetery or other place of any horn, megaphone, siren, bell, radio or other sound-producing or sound-amplifying mechanism, instrument or device when the sound thereof is sufficiently audible upon any public street or sidewalk to attract and congregate a crowd thereon or of such character and intensity and duration as to be detrimental to the life or health or unreasonably interfere with the sleep, comfort and repose of the general public in a residential or business district. (This subsection does not apply to industrial manufacturing plants in the regular conduct of their business on their own properties.)
G.

The operation, playing or permitting the operation or playing of any radio, television, phonograph or similar device which reproduces or amplifies sound in such a manner as to create a sound level across a real property line, or through partitions common to two or more persons within a building, which exceeds the limits set forth in Table I.
Editor’s Note: Table I is included in § 133-6.
(This subsection does not apply to industrial manufacturing plants in the regular conduct of their business on their own properties.)

H.

The discharge into the open air of the exhaust from any stationary steam engine, stationary internal-combustion engine or motorboat engine, except through a muffler or other device which will effectively prevent loud or explosive noises therefrom.
I.

Places of public entertainment. Operating or permitting to be operated any loudspeaker or other source of sound in any place of public entertainment which produces maximum levels of 90 dB(A)'s or greater at any point that is normally occupied by a human being, as read with the slow response on a sound-level meter, without a conspicuous and legible sign with lettering no less than one inch high located outside such place, near the entrance, stating: WARNING: SOUND ENVIRONMENT WITHIN MAY CAUSE TEMPORARY HEARING IMPAIRMENT WHICH MAY BECOME PERMANENT WITH CONTINUED EXPOSURE. The sound level across a real property line shall not exceed the limits set forth in Table I.
Editor’s Note: Table I is included in § 133-6.

J.

Alarms. The sounding or permitting of the sounding of any exterior burglar alarm on any building or motor vehicle, unless such burglar alarm shall terminate its operation within 15 minutes of its being activated.
K.

Stationary emergency signaling devices. Testing of only the electromechanical functioning of a stationary emergency signaling device shall occur at the same time each day when a test is performed, but not before 9:00 a.m. or after 8:00 p.m. Any such testing shall not exceed one minute.
L.

The use and operation of any sound-reproduction device in a vehicle which would constitute a threat to the safety of pedestrians or vehicle operators or where conditions of overcrowding or street repair or other physical conditions are such that the use of a sound-reproduction device would deprive the public of the right to the safe, comfortable, convenient and peaceful enjoyment of a public street, park or place for public purpose and would constitute a threat to the safety and welfare of the public. Said noise disturbance is deemed to be in violation of this section if it can be heard from a distance of greater than 50 feet.
[Added 3-10-2003 by L.L. No. 1-2003]

Tonawanda laws

The following acts are declared to be loud, disturbing or excessive noise in violation of this chapter:
A.

Keeping in any building or upon any premises any animal or bird which, by frequent or long continued noise [continuous for 10 minutes or intermittent for 30 minutes], shall disturb the comfort and repose of the general public.
B.

The use of any automobile, motorcycle or motor vehicle so out of repair, so loaded or in any manner so as to create excessive or unusual grating, grinding, rattling or other noise.
C.

The sounding of any horn or signaling device on any automobile, motorcycle or motor vehicle on any street or public place in the Town of Tonawanda, New York, except as a danger warning as provided in § 375, Subdivision 1, of the Vehicle and Traffic Law of the State of New York; the creation by means of any signaling device of excessive or unusual sound and the sounding of any such device for an unnecessary and unreasonable period of time; the use of any horn, whistle, or other device operated by engine exhaust, which results in any excessive or unusual sound.
D.

The making of any noise for advertising purposes in any street or public place, or by means of aircraft. The advertisement or calling attention to any advertisement, article, business, calling or profession upon any street, sidewalk or entrance to a place of business by means of any horn, megaphone, siren, bell, radio or any other sound-producing or sound-amplifying mechanism, instrument or device.
E.

The operation in or upon any automobile, truck or other conveyance upon any public street of any horn, megaphone, siren, bell, radio or any other sound-producing or sound-amplifying mechanism, instrument or device. This subsection shall not apply to the use of a horn, bell or signaling device when the same is necessary or required for the protection of persons or property or to any fire or police vehicle or apparatus or licensed ambulance when responding to any call, or to radio sets installed in motor vehicles, nor shall this subsection apply to a duly authorized public parade (parade of public interest, as contrasted with private parades conducted for commercial purposes).
F.

The operation of any store, stand, office building, cemetery or other place of any horn, megaphone, siren, bell, radio or other sound-producing or sound-amplifying mechanism, instrument or device when the sound thereof is sufficiently audible upon any public street or sidewalk to attract and congregate a crowd thereon or of such character and intensity and duration as to be detrimental to the life or health or unreasonably interfere with the sleep, comfort and repose of the general public in a residential or business district. (This subsection does not apply to industrial manufacturing plants in the regular conduct of their business on their own properties.)
G.

The operation, playing or permitting the operation or playing of any radio, television, phonograph or similar device which reproduces or amplifies sound in such a manner as to create a sound level across a real property line, or through partitions common to two or more persons within a building, which exceeds the limits set forth in Table I.
Editor’s Note: Table I is included in § 133-6.
(This subsection does not apply to industrial manufacturing plants in the regular conduct of their business on their own properties.)

H.

The discharge into the open air of the exhaust from any stationary steam engine, stationary internal-combustion engine or motorboat engine, except through a muffler or other device which will effectively prevent loud or explosive noises therefrom.
I.

Places of public entertainment. Operating or permitting to be operated any loudspeaker or other source of sound in any place of public entertainment which produces maximum levels of 90 dB(A)'s or greater at any point that is normally occupied by a human being, as read with the slow response on a sound-level meter, without a conspicuous and legible sign with lettering no less than one inch high located outside such place, near the entrance, stating: WARNING: SOUND ENVIRONMENT WITHIN MAY CAUSE TEMPORARY HEARING IMPAIRMENT WHICH MAY BECOME PERMANENT WITH CONTINUED EXPOSURE. The sound level across a real property line shall not exceed the limits set forth in Table I.
Editor’s Note: Table I is included in § 133-6.

J.

Alarms. The sounding or permitting of the sounding of any exterior burglar alarm on any building or motor vehicle, unless such burglar alarm shall terminate its operation within 15 minutes of its being activated.
K.

Stationary emergency signaling devices. Testing of only the electromechanical functioning of a stationary emergency signaling device shall occur at the same time each day when a test is performed, but not before 9:00 a.m. or after 8:00 p.m. Any such testing shall not exceed one minute.
L.

The use and operation of any sound-reproduction device in a vehicle which would constitute a threat to the safety of pedestrians or vehicle operators or where conditions of overcrowding or street repair or other physical conditions are such that the use of a sound-reproduction device would deprive the public of the right to the safe, comfortable, convenient and peaceful enjoyment of a public street, park or place for public purpose and would constitute a threat to the safety and welfare of the public. Said noise disturbance is deemed to be in violation of this section if it can be heard from a distance of greater than 50 feet.
[Added 3-10-2003 by L.L. No. 1-2003]

Ear plugs. Buy them. The person working NON NORMAL HOURS should not expect the NORMAL WORLD to conform to them.

In before JayS has something negative to say about somedude working on his car at his own house. lol

My neighbors probably hate me. All my cars are loud and I work on them all weekend. No one has ever asked me to stop though. I’d burn down the mother f’ers house.

I’m not saying the neighbor is justified. There is a difference between construction and some dude going Frankenstein in his garage. My neighbors garage is next to my master bedroom.

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Did anyone mention anything about Vipers? I’m not asking the world to conform to me. Have you ever worked night shift?

I am going to have to assume its not just working on the car that is pissing him off/the reason he is being a prick.

Plastic dip your house and lawn pink

It will give him something else to bitch about.

Ugh, shitty. I helped a friend change a front cross member in his Jeep Patriot Tuesday night and my neighbor who heard the noise just came over to see what we were up to and offer up some tools if we needed anything.

Your neighbor have a reason to dislike you before this, Alex? The loudest sounds I hear in this thread are axes being ground.

Tell him to watch tv or sleep with these on. Noise cancelling headphones ftw! lol

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at my house we start cars with open headers every now n then, but we usually stop around 9-10… we’ll take them up to the gas station, never any problems. I guess its shitty to have neighbors that actually care… I’m surprised the cops never come to my house because there are usually 8-12 cars in both my driveways, and on the side of the road 5 days a week hahah

he has never said anything to us since he moved in. At one point we rearranged the parking arrangement in the driveway because when I would pull my truck in at night the headlights would light up his livingroom. I assumed this would be really annoying and I would not enjoy this myself so changing the parking arrangement solved this. keep in mind no complaint was ever made regarding that. A few months later a 6 foot or 8 foot fence was put up. Just came home one day and BAM big as fence… It is his property so he can do whatever he wants. After the complaint to the town acousing us of running a unregistered repair shop and the call to the police later that day. I moved my truck to its original position in the driveway so when I park it illuminates his livingroom through the fence. I know this because I can see light beaming out of his other livingroom window. The HID’s are bright as fuck on my truck and since I am always good to my turbos I sit there for a few min to let things cool off. It is petty but there is no way in hell I am going to abandon a project when it is so close to being done.

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Before the work on the camaro began I can’t think of any reason for him to be upset. We all pretty much work second shift so we tend to be up a bit later than some people.

What part on Tonawanda?
I’m certain that section B was written for my car/motorcycles speifically…

I do not get pissy about noise untill 10:59PM

I also try to be neighborly and keep the noise down when I know the neighbor kids are in bed.

town of tonawanda. delaware rd

Meh, my neighbors are cool I guess. I’ve gotten bored at 1-2am and went out to the garage to work on the SV or GS, angle grinders, buffers, etc. I shut the garage door behind me though, and to be honest my garage keeps a lot of the noise in.

Lol, where are they flying?
I used to be part of the R/C Aircrafters, which shared a field with the flying knights in hamburg.
My father still is I think… I know he flies out somewhere in Lancaster more often, kinda out near west wood/cemetery or such.
They’re required to use mufflers, which help incredibly. But they’re still loud, yes. lol. If it’s a problem, go talk to them. the flying knights are more or less all 60+ year old guys that can barely walk.
They won’t give you much of a fight, lol. However the RC aircrafters/flying knights did get a ton of trash for the field in hamburg, because parents complained about how unsafe it is while their kids are playing soccer (they were far, far away from the runway)! The Flying knights/aircrafters were there first, but the soccer clubs have many many more members, so obviously the soccer clubs won out.

If they live out in a agriculture district like I do, you sign a waiver saying you refuse the ability to complain about noises, odors, lights, or any anything otherwise offensive.
I’ll imagine he doesn’t since he’s complaining about smells.
People where I live shoot off fireworks all day long, fire handguns in their backyards, run machinery all night long, etc…
I’m no different, and will only be worse once my shop is done! ha.