Is this a real car show and the plaza is closed off for it?
You cant just block cars from coming in and charge them because you want to have a meet. If I owned a store and found out you were charging and blocking normal customers I’d be pissed and would definitely put a stop to it.
Once again, the protection of the less than exotic / rare automobile creeps into the suggestion box.
Or maybe people out on the west coast who do not get cooped up all winter feel the need to come to the first one after a long winter and act like a horses ass??
1). Stipulations being that any car with a Hoonigan/monster energy sticker be run over by the bro dozers that show up. Take occupants out of both sets of vehicles and push them off a cliff.
2). The cookie Jr and I got from there was delicious as well
3). How are you so skinny with the shit you eat?
Not married and no kids, all that extra time for cardio and madd reppage at the gym brogan.
Omg. Hot.
Orchard park is the worst. I’m surprised it lasted as long as it did. They have killed off any and every car function even with permits.
Looking forward to next month.
Insurance & liability. You can’t just set up a spot and go with it.
I fully understand that concept I just meant doing the first part in addition to all the proper permitting to keep out junk and when you donate the money it makes the whole thing look better
I honestly feel the need for insurance and liability drastically decreases when these events are without the shitheads…
There is always one person or group responsible then. Would you like to take on that burden if the shitheads cause a problem?
I’ve been running car shows and cruises for 25 years, I’ve been through it all.
Charge $ and people won’t come. It will die a quick death. Limit who comes in, can’t do that since it is a public lot. That person with the rusted out shitty 93 Tercel, they are a customer.
From the start, I knew that the OF lot would be too small for this cruise. You had people craving to come out for the first time, and word spread.
Find a cheap parking lot for sale and my LLC called “No Assets” will buy it and host Cars & Coffee. 
Being that it seems the venue and crowd behavior are the two biggest issues, can we find an enthusiast who owns a business or location (i.e.: parking lot) that might be willing to host this? Insurances and such addressed but maybe someone who understands these events would better deal with the inevitable morons who’d attend, whether they’re wanted or not.
But it works in Texas and a number of other places…
Probably a lot easier said than done. Most enthusiasts who are successful enough to own a business with a lot large enough to host something like this are smart enough to know it’s not worth the potential liability. If something serious happens insurance isn’t going to go far and any good ambulance chaser is going to file against anyone remotely involved, deepest pocketbooks first.
A good idea might be the transit drive in
Didn’t panera bread use to do a cars and coffee style show with muscle cars…? They still so those?
In NY it comes down to Peralta v Henriquez
http://caselaw.findlaw.com/ny-court-of-appeals/1391165.html
The cliffs notes version of which is if the property owner opens that property to public access they have a legal requirement to make that property safe.
(Yay, a chance to use my old FindLaw skills from college that I never get to use in my professional career!)
I didn’t say don’t get insurance lol
I was simply pointing out many places charge money to enter cars and coffee and still have great turn outs.
Yeah, I’m just saying even if you come in with promises of insurance most business owners are still going to say it’s not worth the risk. Insurance it’s some magic wand that absolves the property owner of all liability. I think the key is finding a business that not only has a lot large enough to support it but one that also stands to profit from the increase in traffic (aka, forget the idea of empty lots at places that happened to be closed that day). RodandPiston does some meets at Texas Roadhouse near 425. I’m sure that’s profitable for Texas Roadhouse because the attendees and spectators would dine there and it’s typically a weeknight where they wouldn’t normally do big business. How much extra business did Orchard Fresh see? I’m sure it didn’t come close to offsetting what they lost in regular weekend business when their lot was full and cops showed up.