Cattaraugus MC crash

anyone hear about this. SUPER shitty, especially since the guy was drunk. It makes me so fucking angry. Good samaritans get fucked too. :tdown:

CATTARAUGUS INDIAN RESERVATION - Like his brother next door, Mike Schindler heard the Sunday night crash, the one that killed a 21-year-old motorcyclist, and ran outside to see what had happened.
His brother, Arthur Schindler Jr., already had rushed to the scene and told him to call 911.

So Mike Schindler ran back inside, grabbed his telephone and called 911. Just then, he saw another driver who had stopped to help waving her arms in an attempt to stop a Ford Taurus station wagon heading north on Route 438.

“I was telling the lady on 911, here comes the car that’s going to hit them all,” Mike Schindler said. “I saw her hit them all. I saw the impact. She never hit her brakes or anything.”

Mike Schindler watched the vehicle strike all three people: the motorcyclist, his own brother Arthur, 43, and Arthur’s girlfriend, Amy Jimerson, 33, the woman who had stopped to help.

First, he ran over to check on his brother.

“He was laying on the road. He was still breathing. I got a towel, tried to comfort him and told him to hold on, help was coming. But he was bad. . . . He didn’t last long, maybe five minutes.”

Then he turned his attention to Jimerson.

“Amy was alive, too,” he said. “They tried to help her, but she passed, too.”

Erie County sheriff’s deputies say they believe the motorcyclist - Barton Mohawk, 21 - was killed in the first crash, at about 9:05 p.m., when his motorcycle collided with a van backing out of the driveway on Route 438, about 10 miles south of Route 5. The impact threw Mohawk from the end of the driveway to the other side of the road.

Deputies located the van driver, James Golden, 22, about three hours after the accident and charged him with driving while intoxicated, driving with a suspended license and leaving the scene of an accident.

The Taurus driver, Annelese Weyand, 18, of Gowanda, told deputies that she did not see the people in the roadway, shortly after sunset.

“At this point, there’s no indication that charges will be filed [against her],” Sgt. Thomas Daugherty of the sheriff’s Accident Investigation Unit said. “But we’re still investigating.”

All night Sunday and into late Monday, friends and loved ones of the three people killed gathered at the crash site, in the Pinewoods section of the Cattaraugus Indian Reservation, to pay their respects.

Mostly, they paid tribute to Arthur Schindler - “JR” for junior, to most people, but “June” to his brothers.

Several said they were struck by the irony of his death. He always urged drivers to slow down in Pinewoods, where the speed limit was 55 mph along a residential two-lane road, and to watch out for bikes.

He was known to get in his own truck and chase down speeding truckers to warn them to slow down. He also kept an eye on Pinewoods Field across the street to prevent rowdiness.

“June was concerned about everybody’s safety all the time,” said another brother, Daniel. "No matter what went on, no matter how crazy it got, he knew it would come around and everything would be all right.

“He was so cool, so calm, sometimes you even wondered if he cared.”

But as friends and family gathered at the crash site, not a person was surprised that Schindler would have been the first to run to the crash site, to comfort the motorcycle operator and try to keep oncoming cars from running over him again.

“That was June,” Daniel Schindler said. “He would always talk about the troops, his friends. If anybody needed help, he’d get the troops and help them.”

Sheriff’s officials were calling Arthur Schindler and Jimerson the Good Samaritans in this case. But that didn’t comfort those who mourned Monday.

“He died a hero,” said Jasper Marshall, a good friend. “But how’s that going to be a comfort to me? My best friend is dead. He’s not going to be here tomorrow. He’s the guy who made me what I am today, a Local 6 ironworker.”

Throughout the day Monday, friends and loved ones gathered at the crash site, outside the Schindler family residences. They put up a tent. They brought food - and their condolences. Tears were shed, people told stories and laughed, and some media members were met with harsh words.

It was all part of the grieving, an informal wake.

“This is one big community,” Daniel Schindler said. “Everybody here has known everybody all their lives. That’s why they’ll all be here.”

I heard that on the radio yesterday right after I woke up in the AM. Couldn’t believe it. super tdown :tdown:

how do you not see people in the middle of the road helping someone who just got in a motorcycle accident?!? lemme guess she was on her cellphone

eh, you never know. could have been over a hill or around a corner or something, but yeah, wtf… she was only 18… fucking broad.

That fucking blows… I am sure everyone who drinks had driven at some point when they shouldn’t have (myself included) and this is the result when your luck runs out…

on a lighter note…

“Erie County sheriff’s deputies say they believe the motorcyclist - Barton Mohawk, 21 - was killed in the first crash”

How strange is that?? (inside joke) Hhaha…

true, never know…i’m just going by how he said to the 911 operator tho that she wasn’t even attempting to stop.

"He was known to get in his own truck and chase down speeding truckers to warn them to slow down. He also kept an eye on Pinewoods Field across the street to prevent rowdiness. "

wtf sounds like an asshole to me

why is he an asshole, cause he wants truckers to slow down? and not have punks making noise across the street from his house?

sorry, ur wrong

if the guy on the phone said “here’s a car thats gonna run them all over”

its obviously an open road, and not windy, probably no blind spots

jsut some dumb person not watching the road at all

damnit i hate reading things like this :frowning: :frowning:

RIP

Thats sad.

hoping in his truck to chase down speeders? i’m sure he calmly asked them to pull to the side of the road and politely asked them to slow down next time. yeah it sucks they died trying to help out the guy in the crash but family/friends always claim the victim was a saint during life

haha, and i am sure that by watching a truck pass, getting in his truck that was parked, he could catch the speeding truck without speeding himself.

:ham:

and true about the call and shit… fucking broad.

From my safety steward speach at autocross:

When red flagging a car, do not get in front of the car. You are 200 lbs, the car is 3000 lbs, the car will win.

Yeah, it’s great you’re trying to stop the car from running over the motorcycle guy (who from the sounds of it was already dead) but at some point you still have to be ready to get out of the way if it doesn’t stop. Sounds to me like one tragedy, and two cases of poor judgement.

Just then, he saw another driver who had stopped to help waving her arms in an attempt to stop a Ford Taurus

I’ve actually done this on a rural road back home when I drove up on an accident. I parked MY CAR between the people in the accident and the oncoming traffic. You see cops do it all the time too. Cars stop other cars much better than people.

And the lesson here is to never help anyone

well wasnt this just a cluster fuck of stupidity

a drunk driver
a dude that chases down speeders to lecture them
3 people who didnt have the brains to jump out of the way of oncoming traffic
a driver that cant see 3 people jumping around in the road to get her attention

Some people won’t stop if people are waving thier arms on the res.
I wouldn’t stop but, then again I wouldn’t run anyone over either.
I bet there is more to this story that we may never hear.

i can understand not wanting to stop for strangers at night, but fucking A, at least slow down and swerve … its not like people can hop in your car and rob you while you pass at like 30mph …

why am i not surprised that the girl who hit them all was 18 ?

What we have here is the result of the convergence of bad luck and bad judgement, and a lot of both.

if ya knew the road, it’s not well lit AT ALL (VERY dark), lots and lots of curves and hills plus a 55 mph speed limit = it was bound to happen sooner or later

a shame any way ya look at it :frowning: :tdown: