cause it's hard to drive a chumpcar in the cold November rain

the faster car is something like 170 crank (it’s a fresh full rebuild and has intake / exhaust) and maybe 2500-2600lbs. (I haven’t weighed it but I suspect the gutting and cage cancel each other out). we run rivals for tires which are probably the best legal tire.

it’s a really fun car, you should consider renting a ride with us sometime next year this racing is a real blast and a great value for the money.

I think this car has the potential to creep under 2:20 at the glen on rivals with some more refinement and a better driver.

I won’t tell you what our 9-3 weighs or how much power it makes, but it weighs less than the teg and makes more power, and our professional drivers were struggling for 2:23s in the dry on a better tire than the Rival.

Biohazard and Tiger’s Wood were both in the 2:18s this event.

Our 9-5 managed a 2:19 before they banned it from the league.

I hope we get to see… Ryan has a friend who is a honda world challenge driver and I’ll love to see him turn some laps once we get VTEC correctly engaging (it was cutting out of a lot) and a few other things.

I think what we lose to that saab in torque we can out handle a bit with more entry speed from watching it.

2500 - 2600 lbs isn’t gonna cut it, no matter who’s driving and how much power you’re making.

Saab handles like shit. It wins on fuel and straight line speed due to the fantastic aero.

it’s just a guess after looking up the stock weight… I’ll have to get it on the corner scales and see. I can’t imagine that it would be a heavier car than the saab if the same things are done to each.

I think an ITA Integra is 2500# with cage and driver. So I’m assuming you can get quite a bit under that without a hatch and other non-essentials.

Again, I’m not going to go into specifics on a public forum (although I may discuss with Ryan in person), but our cars do not have anywhere near the same things done to each other.

Looks like our team has three trophy’s to return then (I’d rather see than save 10#s)

But in all seriousness the speed creep is very fun to watch. There was a time when running slower than ITB was good enough, now cars are approaching ITA times.

Biohazard still a MR2 and Tiger’s Wood a XR7 ???

Tiger’s Wood is technically now Drunken Squirrel Racing and they’re running a Mercury Cougar with Ford GT40 heads.
Biohazard still has their MR2.

The “fastest” car in the league is actually our Talon, when it runs. 18% finish ratio at this point. Broke in the first 1/2 hour and kept getting worse until my second stint, when I went 40 feet and then we parked the car.

it is cool… top cars were running 1:16 or so laps. and all this is on cut oem springs, 180tw tires, and oem struts.

cool highlights reel they put together:

https://youtu.be/c7UfW-5OfOA

I like the way the video was put together. I am curios about his driving style. My limited experience racing road course picks up that his driving style is vastly different from mine in my SHO. On my car I would brake extremely late and would trail brake almost all the way into the apex then mash the power to straighten the car back out. I am sure different car setups change the way you attack corners but on mine I could change the rotation depending on how much brake I used and if I came in too hot I would just add more sideways to scrub speed and get back on power when I was ready to straighten out.

In the video he brakes hard then gets on power before or right at the very beginning of the corner which on my setup would have unloaded the front end and would have made me run way wide if not off the track all together. Do you think this car is too loose in the rear for a driving style like I used on my SHO? not criticizing just curious on the differences.

Ryan’s cars are properly balanced/aligned to allow you to get on the power VERY early and get out of the corner.

Also, they don’t have any torque so you’d better get on the throttle early anyway.

Your car is so fucking heavy AND torquey that it just bucks back and unloads the fronts, combined with probably 9 million lbs over the front axles anyways, which results in the terminal understeer you’re talking about.

yup sums it up well… once you get the car turned in enough you can just power and turn as much as the tires can grip.