Chiropractic Care - Discussion

The wifey has been infiltrating my brain lately with natural healing, primarily because we have children and crazy things have been happening to kids when being pumped with medications at the first signs of “anything”. Personally, i’m not one to take tylenol or other pills prescribed for pain, mainly because I wait it out or forget it’s even an option.

I’ve been going for about a year for a pinched nerve in my neck and have noticed improvement. It mainly stems from a long term bad habbit i have of cracking my own neck. I used to get tingling in my fingers when i did heavy lifting at the gym. etc.

However, with this discussion, i want to venture away from the obvious chriopractic care issues related directly to the spine, since that seem like the general conception with chiropractic care. I want to divert the attention to chiropractic care of the things you wouldn’t think are associated at all.

For the last year or so, I have been taking the family to a local chriopractor twice a month…a REALLY good one. She doesn’t take insurance, but we get a family package for $100 each visit for the 4 of us. The first visit was a screening with some pretty impressive technology that gave a detailed print out of which muscles are overworking, high strain, low blood flow, etc. This gives us a starting point and we can view how it changed in the future.

not my report, but an example.
http://newlifechiro.net/images/static_scan.jpg

From my report, i was able to confirm where my problem areas were and what adjustments i will need for longer term care.

The interesting stuff:

I took my 10 month old daughter to have these same scans done and start getting them adjusted early for good growth and development. I was VERY surprised to see how out of alignment they were for being so young. A lot of people think that spinal adjustment to infants is harmful, which couldn’t be farther from the truth.

Her first adjustment: My daughter had difficulty looking up and as a new walker she walked like i expected any new walker to walk…kinda robotic and clumsy. Following her first ever adjustment she instantly, i mean while we were still in the chiropractor’s office, walking much better, less robotic, straight, and without falling. She also had more mobility in her head and neck. Ok, Cool.

The VERY Interesting stuff:

1.) My wife had heard about chiropractic adjustment for Migraine Headaches and started getting a bad one around 2pm, called the chiropractor and she got an adjustment just a few hours later, her Migraine was instantly gone

2.)This past week, my daughter was coming down with the cold. She wasn’t eating much and was only awake 5hrs out of the day. She also had a climbing fever for a few days and we took her to the chiropractor with a temp of 101.0°F during her adjustment. The chiropractor said something about adjustments to the lower back relating directly to fevers(i don’t know the terminology, but that’s where she focused her attention). THAT NIGHT, just 2hrs later as we put her to bed, her fever had dropped to 98.9°. The next day she had her energy back, no signs of a cold besides a runny nose, and was back in her normal routine.

3.) I had been congested with a cold for nearly a week, more of an inconvenience than anything. I told her about it while i was getting a routine adjustment. She did a quick neck adjustment, a couple tugs on my ears and instantly my sinus’ drained and i could breath clearly.

4.) Everytime i get an adjustment now…i have tons of energy and seem to be generally happier than when i went in. It’s literally an attitude adjustment.

I could go on with several more personal examples that the family has gotten adjustmets for…stuff i didn’t even realize as a problem.

The VERY VERY AMAZING Stuff:

An example of what my chiropractor accomplished: (I’ll post a link to the medical journal when i locate it)

A couple years ago a newborn baby was medically diagnosed with a heart/lung issue. For a few weeks, the parents and doctors had tried everything. The baby couldn’t even make a sound to cry, couldn’t eat much, wasn’t responding to touch or sounds. The doctors gave the baby only a couple weeks to live. One of the nurses recommended that she take the baby to a chiropractor. Starting immediately, at the parents despiration, the baby was given 2 adjustments every day for several weeks and after a just few days there was noticable improvement to its motor functions and began eating. After a few weeks the baby was living a normal newborn life and has had no medical conditions relating to the diagnosed condition that ultimately medical doctors had given up on and let die.

In summary there are tons of conditions and problems that can be fixed with our bodies through chiropractic care, a world that i wasn’t aware of beyond having your spine properly alligned. Instead, people are quick to choose to take medications and pills to solve all of their problems. (i.e. insomnia, depression, etc) when there is a much better option out there.

Now, i’m not trying to go all hippy. I’m not saying that at all that medical doctors are needed. that’s not true at all, i’m just saying their are natural, much healthier ways to address some of the problems. In some cases, chiropractic care is the only way to address some or problems before they happen.

Do yourself a favor and look into a quality chiropractor, even if you feel like you are healthy and have no problems, you will be suprised by how much your quality of life can be improved.

Take a look at some of the issues that can be addressed:
http://www.amcchiropractic.net/cms/files/VertebralSubluxationandNerveChart_0.jpg

lol is that chiropractor taking patients

I have heard mixed reviews about other local phones

I go just for adjustment in my upper back. I always feel better, don’t get headaches like I used to, have more energy and most importantly I can sleep better.

I get a sort of high feeling immediately after going, which goes away pretty quickly. One thing I was going for was a constant stabbing pain in my left shoulder from sitting at a desk all day long. Chiropractic really did not do anything for that problem, I think its was more of a strained muscle issue. I alleviated that with weight training.

FWIW, i have been to a different chiropractor prior. he did some good adjusting and knew his suff, but it seemed like he was more interested in a volume of patients. I was in/out in 10mins. I wasn’t getting a detailed level of care there. Just like medical doctors, you cant judge them all just because you went to one.

Where i am now, i get more attention each time and im usuauly in/out in 30-45mins. So if you went to one chriopractor and it didn’t do it for you, doens’t mean they’re all that way.

right next to the fairgrounds:

Safe Harbor Chiropractic
4390 Quinby Dr # J,
Hamburg, NY 14075-7900

(716) 648-7613 ‎

I used to go when I was in high school because my mom had a accident and it was part of her rehab. I definitely slept better afterward, but only for that 1 night. I stopped going after it wasn’t free for me to tag along with my mom anymore. I’m much more skeptical about it now and have found that, at least for me, I can get the same effect from a simple back massage verses paying to get my back cracked.

Watch this starting at 6:05… especially that part about adjusting children:

And finish up here:

I had a realy bad shoulder injury from lifting a few yrs back and after numerous mri’s with ink and stuff and about 5-6 cortosone shots over 1 1/2yrs the pain remained. My whole right side would knot up so i started seeing a cyropracter about 1-2x a week to relieve the knots and help me rehab the shoulder. After a few months the knots would stay away but i can honestly say it helped alot. UNfortunetly its been about 3-4 yrs and this year is the first year i can lift heavy weights with zero shoulder pain. been a long healing process but i guess shoulder injuries can bethat way.

now to the bad stuff, because i was frequenting the chiropractor so often i was getting adjustments all the time. What i noticed was my back/neck would feel great afterwards but shortly after i would knot up and need another adjustemt. my body became addicted to the adjustments and would no longer “heal” itself. After going cold turkey from the chiropractor my body is self regulating once again. I now ONLY go to the chiropractor unless im in extreme pain. I had to go a few times a couple months ago after hurting my neck doing heavy military presses. I was in so much pain i actually was weaping/crying a lil bit.

so i guess inmo chiropractors should be used on a “needs only” basis. If there is nothing wrong with you i dont think your should just go in for random adjustments monthly. But im no doctor, so this is just my personal experience.

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YES, the main reason i use my chiropractor for now is massaging out knots. I find that 99% of my issues are muscle related.

I have been going to different chiropractors on and off for the last 10 years.

For me, they can be really amazing. I have had nights where I am perfectly fine, go to bed, wake up in the morning and my neck hurts to bad to move that basically I can look straight forward and that is it. Reminds me of watching a batman movie where he can’t turn his head at all. If I can get into the chiro the first day it happens, I am better after, still sore but better. The next night after sleeping I am back 100%. But, if I have to even wait a day to go it takes much longer to feel better.

Without going to the chiro it takes weeks to feel better and I will still get twinges of pain when looking up or down till I finally go.

I find it is just to expensive to really go even just once a week, on a regular basis. But if I am in pain I will go a few times and get it taken care of.

We also got an inversion table that you hang upside down by your feet and that thing feels amazing.

I get lower back pain and I went to a chiro for a while… I could get the pain to go away but it never lasted. In the end I concluded that I could do just about anything with the help and stopped going.

I now do inversion therapy where I hang upside down and this work just as good and is free for unlimited visits.

this is what I have (random google image):
http://www.greendoorwellness.ca/images/Teeter%20Hang%20Ups%20Inversion%20Bar%20large%20situp.jpg

My dad has had back problems for years and has come a long way with seeing chiropractors. He now regularly uses an inversion chair similar to this one:
http://s5.thisnext.com/media/largest_dimension/1A97AEEA.jpg

He will visit a chiropractor once in a great while now but there’s really not much the chiropractor can do anymore to heal his back. Actually he has been doing pilates exercises pretty often to help strengthen his lower back and that’s really what has been helping maintain his current state. It will never be 100% again but it’s at least tolerable for him now.

“The philosophy of chiropractic is founded upon the knowledge of the manner in which all vital functions are performed by innate in health and disease. When the controlling intelligence is able to transmit mental impulses to all parts of the body, free and unobstructed, we have normal action which is health”

It’s not that I don’t believe you, and the results…but there is no way that I could live my life paying $200/month for someone to crack my back twice. As stated above, I think your body will become dependent on it, and that’s not healthy either. It just means your chiropractor gets paid.

Like most people, I have mixed feelings. It’s hard to argue that the results seem to be short term and will create a dependency on chiropractic care. Maybe if you went for a few visits to see what was really wrong, and then found a way to prevent those problems from happening again by some simple daily activity, it would be great. But who knows.

I’m realizing that I should stop cracking my neck, though.

Natural healing? What’s natural about getting medical care when nothing’s wrong? My body doesn’t have set screws. No adjustments necessary. There was no such thing as chiropractic care for 99.99999% of our evolution. Exactly what is natural about this? That it’s chemical free?

I assume you researched the hell out of what you were doing before you put your admittedly fine 10 month old on the chiropractic table?

Right, this is exactly what my dad found out after 20 years of off and on chiropractic visits. There’s only so much a chiropractor can do. The rest has to be supplemented with exercise and other good habits.

TO ADDRESS my take on the whole, “you become dependant” or “it’s a temporary fix”:

It’s important to note… the spine and muscle obviously work together. In addition to just getting your spine adjusted…a good chiropractor should be giving you information on muscle stretching and building targeting your specific concern. If you are not strengthing or stretching certain muscles … you are allowing your spine to easily go back into mis alignment, making your fix “temporary”

I should have noted that i’ve only been going on a regular basis for about 6 months. It’s an aid to get on the right track, not a supplement. Healthy eating and excercise is always encouraged.

You think nothing is wrong because you don’t have symptoms? What i was getting at with the original core of the discussion wasn’t the obvioius spinal stuff…but the things that people “deal with” on a daily basis and don’t realize it may be associated to spinal problems. Things like allergies, migraines, sinus problems, ear aches, numbness, bad menstral pains, etc…things that people cast off as just the normal pains of life.

So you don’t think it’s unnatural for muscles straining to compensate for your spine misalignement? You don’t think that subluxation betwen vertebae is unnatural? I know the majority of the problems that exist you can push through and “deal” with. Hell, i’m sure 99.999998% of our evolution never used kindney transplants, Casts for broken bones, and many forms of legitimate healthcare treatment…but doesn’t mean we are worse off because of it…just means that we have found ways to fix problems. And yes, the fact that the chripractor magically got rid of a fever without us having to go to the docotors and be told to take some form of medication is infact natural. And yes, I am against giving my children unnecessary medicine and vaccines at a young, volitle age. When your bun comes out of the oven you’ll start realizing you’ll have to make these decisions too and no matter how much research you do…in the end it’s your choice.

No, i did it blindly. The witch docotor was out that day.

my 10mo was taken in for an evaluation which requires no adjustments or anything invasive. When a child spends 9mos in a cramped space and then gets pushed through a set of pelvic bones…they don’t just automatically straighten out naturally like you would think. My daughter had been to all scheduled doctor visits with a clean bill of health and no issues (minus a heart murmor). Despite all the trusted doctor visits, it took the chiropractor all of 10 mintues to discover she had a mild hip displasia. It’s a problem with the growth of the hip joint…had it not been discovered, we would not have known until it would have been too late for non-invasive corrective action. it would have developed into a problem that would have required surgery and hip braces until corrected.

$0.02 - I’m on Laughing Gases side here. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

Fry - we didn’t sit in “ergonomically acceptable” (notice I didn’t say ‘correct’) chairs 4-8 hours a day for 99.9999 of our evolution either. Nor did we wear specially shaped pads beneath our feet… nor did we sit on finely made waddings of polyester and foam during our downtime… etc.

I have a bad back.

I went 3 times a week for 4 months.

I feld good for about a day, then right back to being sore.

When in came in sore, and said it was from sowmobiling, the ciropractor said that people with cronic back pain aren’t supposed to snowmobile.

I guess at 25 i was supposed to sit on a couch all day so that he felt that he was providing relieve.

I never went back.

Ps. I dont know where this term adjusting came into use, they dont adjust shit. They give you a back massage and crack your back. I can crack my own back, but why, it doesnt do shit. I can have the old lady walk on my back and do more than the ciropractor can. Oh and on the homework, i can google stretches, i dont need to pay someone to tell me to strech my hammies.

Well… yes.

Good. I agree with that attitude. Western society is painfully overmedicated, and despite my skepticism I will keep chiropractic care in mind as a possible drug-free alternative to traditional chemical care.

Why use words with such negative connotation to describe proper fetal development and child birth? There’s nothing cramped about the womb or wrong with a baby getting pushed through pelvic bones. It’s actually perfect.

I misunderstood the original post. I’m glad you were able to find and treat a problem without invasive treatment. I will keep this type of treatment in mind if I have concerns with my bun when it’s done baking.

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Woah, where the hell did you come from?

But yeah, agreed. My evolution argument is flawed because we live drastically different from how we did for 99.99999% of our evolution. I understand that.

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you’ve been going every other week for 6 months, and you consider that temporary?

I do get knots in my back from time to time, but it’s nothing that my fiancee can’t rub out, or that I can’t get out with some stretching and stuff. IMO, you’re over-doing it.