The neon driver should be charged for whatever there is associated with street racing, but certainly not manslaughter. That’s just ridiculous.
As stated above, they’re trying to make an example out of this kid, end of story.
When i first read this and felt compelled to make the thread I thought the charges sounded harsh but based on their legal explanation you can reason it out to see that in a way it does make sense.
These are things I did not know you could be charged with based on it being an “accident” So it certainly woke me up to a point of saying…i always knew it wasnt worth it…but if these are the “unknown” consequences that its absolutely never worth it.
I mean put yourself in a position of having someone egg you on to race and you get fed up with it and the adrenaline and machismo takes over and you pounce it and they have an unfortunate accident and the cops show up at your door and you can serve almost 20 years for having an ego.
The real hope I have for posting this thread is that people will not argue about the legality or the common sense of the law. I hope it stops atleast one but hopefully all of you from pulling up to people and throwing revs and racing on public roads.
Just think the next time someone pulls up next to you or you catch a light with someone else…is it worth 20 years of my time and the neverending nightmare of living with the consequences mentally and emotionally ? If you answer yes…then you need a real good look in the mirror. If the answer is no…then hopefully we dont have to read about street racing deaths or accidents this year.
The other thing is that by street racing and having accidents and deaths, towns are going to crack down extremely hard on those of us that have modded cars that enjoy just cruising with “harassment” type tickets. So think about that and see if its really worth it.
What’s ironic is these are the same arguements that were used in the thread about him not talking to the police without a lawyer. “they’ll never charge him with manslaughter because he didn’t force the mustang to race”. Maybe if he’s convicted the arguements will be “he should appeal because he didn’t force the mustang to race”.
frank clark is horrible. He is always hungry for pubicity and always yapping his mouth to channel 4 and others. Regardless if the charges are too harsh clark is gunna push for them to add another notch to his belt. All he cares about is the conviction and penalty, and none of the facts inbetween… for examples see dejack and capozzi cases. We paid taxes for trial and to hold them in jail, and now we get to pay them to become millionares now that they have been released from clarks fuck ups.
Why does this guy still have a job?
How can the kid of the other car be responsible for the kid that died not knowing how to drive his car. To me that just seems a little whack.
My main point that I’d like to make is this. If that same race were to happen at NYIRP, and at the end of the drag made the same screw up and caused an accident that killed both people in the car, would the DA bring up charges against the other driver or even the track owner. Just because this happened on the street does not mean it couldn’t happen on the track.
:picard:
Racing at a track…LEGAL AND WAIVERED
Racing on the street…ILLEGAL AND STUPID
race tracks have insurance for this reason with paramedics waiting in the side. You also sign a waiver as well.
yea that was kind of a bad example there 
Shitty.
Did they find the other guy he was racing?
also, how can they charge this guy for manslaughter etc? he didn’t make the mark guy race. he didnt hold a gun to his head. and it’s not his fault this mark guy didnt know how to drive stick
however, i do agree that streetracing is stupid
Yes, they found the guy.
Under the manslaughter statute, a person must perceive the risk and consciously disregard that his conduct could cause the death of another person.
Under criminally negligent homicide, the person negligently fails to perceive the risk.
“We think that the activity itself is so inherently dangerous and the risk is so great that the more serious charge is warranted,” Clark said of such high-speed street racing.
Does it matter that Harhigh also was involved in the unlawful street racing?
“The fact that others were involved in reckless conduct does not absolve the defendant of liability,” he said.
but what he did didn’t cause the other kids death.
and I’m not even talking about the accident.
noone forced the kid to race.
Yes, apparently that’s how it works out now days? It’s dumb fucking bullshit plain and simple.
I bet I’ll get a lot of “how would you feel if you were the girls parents” responses or whatever, I mean it’s tragic but her boyfriend should have taken the fact that he had a passenger into consideration before doing something that can potentially obviously end your life.
Regardless even if the other driver does get charged with it and convicted it’s still stupid and unjust.
Doesn’t matter it’s still idiotic to potentially lock the other driver up for fifteen years because the other kid sucked at driving and took a dangerous risk.
Fifteen years is fifteen years that’s a lot of time to lose from you’re life for not raping or intentionally taking someone’s life. I’m not saying there shouldn’t be any punishment at all, but criminally negligent homicide? Give me a fucking break…
the charges are outrageous. I dont think he should even get a ticket for street racing. No one saw him. Maybe the guy in the mustang was just doing ricer flybys to instigate a race.
The DA had nothing until this kid turned himself in for a guilty consience. Now because the kid was honest and felt bad there gunna throw the book at him. Woulda been better off living with the guilt and not saying anything, instead now he is looking at lotsa time in prison.
Come on now.
We all know he’s just going to get off with
engaging in an unauthorized speed contest, reckless driving and speeding.
and rightfully so.
Sucks a local hottie had to go.
^…wtf…
how could they charge the neon driver if he has nothing to do with the involvement of a crash. the only person they would be able to give manslaughter charges to would have been the driver of the mustang who killed his girlfriend.
How do people know they were going over 120mph? unless this was electronically documented in the mustang? if i am standing on a sidewalk and a car drives by at 45, it looks like its going fast to me.
neon driver should just get a ticket for wreckless driving or w/e, they have no proof of him speeding… unless he admitted to doing all of these things. we have no idea what he admitted to.
Making an example of him by punishing him with the same charges of a murderer is just going to make people lose more respect for authority. Obviously this Clark guy is just trying to throw his power around.