Ugh damnit, you beat me to it. I came here to post that! 
Wrong Turbo, LOL 
there are guys who are planning big projects right now that are going to take their car to this placeā¦ such a shame.
I blame the dog. Notice how heās not in picture #2, mustāve been the employee that was let go, simple logic.
BLOW ALL THE MOTARS!
More money than brains.
wow
You know though, I skimmed the articleā¦ Iād like to see the parts bill vs the labor bill before I make any wild conclusions, there are certain things that are pretty terrible, but any time people bitch about shotty work I think they they have no idea what good work actually costs and how LONG everything takes.
I mean, I only say this because as of late Iāve been so engrossed in my harley project so Iāll use that as an example. I spent over 50 hours working on my foot controlsā¦ FOOT CONTROLS. Two pegs, some brackets and some linkageā¦ 50 hours. And theyāre not even done, nor are they PERFECTā¦ there are little nicks and scratches and some of the welds (that you canāt see) got a little screwy. But if someone were to buy them theyād bitch about QUALITY.
Can you imagine saying yeah, Iāll make you some wicked custom foot controls for your bikeā¦ that will be 100 dollars in material and (at 50 bucks an hour) 2500 dollars in labor. Are you kidding me? Weāre so used to polished chinese junk on ebay for cheap that no one has any fucking clue how much time and effort custom work costs. Carnut and breetime will agree with me on this one.
Some of it is inexcusable, but also some of it is being a bitch. Until I see a labor bill Iām on the fence about this one.
Stacking $2.50 worth of washers to space out a subframe bracket to clear a turbo, isnāt really ācustomā. Everything from what I can see was bolt-on or part of the JUN kit. There was no customization. Maybe on the charge piping, but youāre rightā¦the charge piping didnāt look HORRIBLE.
The other gripe was the time. Thereās no way that bolting together a turbo ki, building a motor, tuning and re-vamping a tranny should take 2 years. Especially when youāre a shop that has the resources to complete a job like this in several months.
He also didnāt get 50% of the parts back that he had installed on the car prior to this build.
This rant was only partially directed at the GTR guy bitching and more just general bitching.
It seemed like a lot of the shit was the crappy turbo kit, but againā¦ hey you just spent 20 grand on a turbo kit. It doesnāt fit, we need another 100 hours labor to make it rightā¦ who is he going to get mad at?.. the person that he is giving HIS money toā¦ itās hard to be mad at a faceless corporation. This is why I would never want to be a shop that has to do installs or tuning. YOU are the direction of dissatisfaction ALWAYS regardless of any other problem in the 50,000 other things that had to go just right before you.
Butā¦ they have one job. They work on cars. Shouldnāt they excel in that area? Be professionals?
If I were a mechanic, Iād strive to be the best damned mechanic I could be. I wouldnāt go beating a downpipe with a hammer if it doesnāt fit, or stack a bunch of washers up. Your work is your signature. You donāt want someone to look at it and say, āwhat retard did this pile of shit?ā You want them to say āBoy golly hot damn, who the hell did that? Thatās awesome!ā
Iām sure a lot of it is being bitchy.
So how much do you guys think all the parts cost he bought? 50k? Iām not up on GTR parts.
So that leaves 200k in laborā¦ Weāll assume $75/hr. 200,000 / 75 = 2667. 2700 Hours? At 8 hours a day, thatās 333 continuous days of work. Leave out weekends, and thatās 66 weeks worth of work, 8 hours per day spent on the car.
Newman, I understand you spent a lot of time working on foot controls. But unless Iāve been out of the loop for a while youāre not a full time āharly builderā. If someones sole job is to make amazing custom work for harleys, Iād imagine they would get it done in less than 50 hours, and probably be a better quality. No offense. But thatās like saying I can come in and do your job in the same amount of time and do the same quality work because I use Inventor and Solidworks from time to time. I honestly donāt know what you do, but you get the picture. These guys are supposed to be āperformance nissan toonersā or whatever they call themselves. It looks more like the Walmart TLE tried to do the install in a few hours while someone was doing their shopping for the week.
P.S. If he paid top dollar for that job, then the welds do indeed look like shit. If theyāre used to welding piping, thatās inexcusable. Some of them look pretty decent, others look like horseshit. If you canāt do a good enough job, send it to a weld shop that can. Leaving craters like those on some of the welds is absolutely inexcusable. From the expansion and contraction those will crack in no time. Like I said, if you have a jobā¦ You might as well do it well or get the fuck out.
75/hr for high end performance work sounds like a really low estimate
Minimum $125. For sure.
iām digging around on their site for labor ratesā¦ However, if I EVER saw someone do this on my car Iād shoot their dick off.
Nice protection boss. Iām sure that tack is going to be right on target. I bet he learned that trick from American Chopper. retards.
I doubt they put any Dspat around the surrounding parts. Not even holding up a piece of cardboard or anything to protect the parts from spatter. A little ball of spatter can easily burn through a fuel line, brake line, anything thatās less than .065" in 304/316 can easily get burned though from a stray bit. Air cooled tig torches are real professional. They couldnāt spend the extra $500 for a cooler and water cooled torches? Oh wait, theyāre custom fabricators, they can just make their own cooler. They use āIndustrial gradeā miller machinesā¦ But waitā¦ I see a Millermatic 210 in their repair pictures. I would hardly call that Industrialā¦ It might be ok for the guy doing lawn artwork. They also have a Syncrowave 200 for TIG, thatās a nice machine actually. But not nearly industrial.
Couldnāt find labor rates. In the shop it says you can find Tuning and Labor Rates, but doesnāt list the rates ;
I even tried looking on the walls in the pictures for a poster that says it. 
Their shop is pretty clean though, very nice.
P.S.
@ $125 Itās 1600 hours, 200 continuous days incl weekends. Thatās sooooo much better for the quality work he got.
There is no way the parts were only 50k. Earlier in the thread someone said that the trans that they sent out was 30 grand.
All Iām saying is if youāre only able to take tons of time and do stuff perfect if someone is going to PAY you to do that.
This thread will continue to perpetually fail when itās driven by the mentality you can turbo a vehicle in a weekend in a garage in trade for beer.
It will also continue to perpetually fail when itās driven by the mentality that it takes 2 years in a dedicated professional shop to turbo a car in trade for twice the carās value, all while making it LOOK like it was done on a weekend, in a garage, in trade for beer.
Meowzers thatās crazy
Lord Jesus, I would love to have a thread deticated to this quote. But Unfortunatly I have to keep tights lips as I am now, āin bussinessā ha. but i 1000% agree with this. I love you.
Iāll comment on newmans post when Iām sitting in front of a computer
Nobody is arguing that its not expensive to mod a GTR
People are pissed because of the quality of work for the price and the fact they blew the motor up twiceā¦
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