This guy has a criminal history long enough that even if he didn’t kill the 4 cops I still wouldn’t have a problem with his execution.
Yeah, if he really did have the one officer’s gun, as reported, he’s clearly shown no regard for the lives of law enforcement officers, I would’ve wasted him too at the first sign of a threat.
I guess we will never know now. How convenient?:snky:
Hmmm… Movie “Pride and Glory” comes to mind right now
I get it, the guy was a scumbag. But I can’t support cops killing suspects.
Word.
Sometimes it is a good thing but where do you draw the line? Maybe the cop thinks I should be dead because he caught me speeding. They should not be judge and jury.
I think putting the line anywhere after the lengthy criminal history this guy had BEFORE shooting the cops would be fine. 
It’s just a slippery slope and we seem to already be sliding.
Really? He has a dead cop’s gun, has killed 4 cops, and gets killed while being arrested and you call that sliding on a slippery slope? You come off as a bigger douche wannabe ambulance chaser every time you post. You’re right about one thing, lawyers aren’t the problem. Lawyers LIKE YOU are the problem.
IANAL and thanks for more ad hominem attacks. You really impress me with your intelligence and debate skills.
It’s not the duty of police to make a determination as to if someone is guilty of a crime and then carry out a subsequent punishment.
Go move to a third-world country if that’s the way you want things run.
My opinion also has nothing to do with my legal training. It’s just common sense.
Wow, JayS never goes off on anyone like that except me :lol:
Guilt or innocence has nothing to do with it. When you have a gun and a cop tells you to drop it and you don’t, you get shot. When you’re most likely the guy who killed 4 cops even more so. I’m sorry, but your “slippery slope” is complete lawyer bullshit in this case. It’s not like they shot an unarmed man accused of shooting 4 cops. They shot a guy with a dead cop’s gun, who was refusing to put it down.
You can’t throw away due process just because you are personally convinced of someone’s guilt.
All the story said was that the guy wouldn’t show his hands and ran around the car.
The cops will have to do their due diligence to make sure the shooting officer didn’t do anything wrong.
That should take about 15 minutes in this case. :roflpicard:
You know as much about the event as I do. I also didn’t make any determination as to whether the police acted correctly in this case. I don’t have enough information and neither do you. To make assumptions, as you are, is idiotic.
Also, as I said before, I’m not a lawyer and probably will never practice law. I am in law school and spent last summer prosecuting in the US Attorneys office so take that ambulance-chasing plaintiffs attorney image and ram it up your ass.
I don’t know what you do, nor do I care, but you seem to have some deep psychological issues regarding the legal profession. Maybe you were molested as a child by Judge Wapner, I don’t know. Maybe you are just jealous that I’m so much better looking than you, I don’t know. In any case, you come off looking childish and ignorant. Relax.
A gun belonging to one of the fallen Lakewood officers was found with Clemmons after he was recognized with the stolen vehicle about 2:45 a.m. and then killed, Troyer said. He was reaching for it when he was shot Tuesday.
“We know our suspect. He’s not afraid to shoot cops,” Troyer said at the news conference.
The officer saw Clemmons and ordered him to show his hands and stop, according to Assistant Police Chief Jim Pugel.
“He wouldn’t stop,” Pugel said. “The officer fired several rounds.”
Quite the slippery slope there. That cop sure is judge dredd.
And yeah, I do have a personal problem with you after your posts in the lawsuit thread. People who honestly believe the stuff you said in that thread are a real problem in this country. They are why we can’t have racetracks, or one touch up windows, or real vehicle leases to name just a few.
In NYS and many others there are fleeing-felon laws. This grants police officer’s the use of lethal force on a person known of committing a felony if they are attempting to flee.
JayS, you don’t know enough about me to have a personal problem with me.
This is true for federal agencies, but most local agencies have policies against this due to liability issues. One bad move and an entire budget can be wiped out in a negligence lawsuit.
You guys are assuming this cop just walked in a room and blasted this guy. Im sure it was hardly like that with this guy willing to kill and being armed. I am willing to bet this cop shot and killed the person because that was the best given option.