As I said before, I fully believe that there isn’t just one simple reason why people are/become gay. I honestly know bro-dude types that are completely gay. A lot of people would think they are just plain “normal” (for lack of a better word, your sexuality doesn’t determine how “normal” you are). I also know a lot of gay guys that are feminine like it was pre-determined at birth (high pitched voice, frail body structure).
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it cant be a choice, no way… theres a handful of little kids who dont feel any type of way because they havent even hit puberty yet… so its def a genetics thing
Did they also pass a law where the state FORCED someone to marry someone of the same sex? Fuck it, it’s their choice. Basically all this does is give them tax breaks and a few other things.
How does it directly effect your life if some Radom homosexual couple gets married? Why get so out of shape about it?
i agree
but what im thinking is, genetics make you sway one way or the other… and then the rest is probably your choice (or denial)
That’s a good way to put it.
Why men and women like each other is generally based on what they are taught by their parents and other influences. Don’t forget that most young chilidren (under say, six or seven years old for example) tend to think children of the opposite sex are “weird” and try to stay away from them. Cooties, or w/e they call it. If the people who are influential in their life told them to continue thinking like that, you think a male child will randomly think “This guy’s crazy, I want a girl to touch”? The excuse of it not being choice and a chemical imbalance is used by people who are afraid of being judged for choosing to go against the grain and putt from the rough. Talk to some gay people and ask them if they choose to be gay or if a chemical imbalance caused it. Most gay people I’ve met chose to be gay.
As far as people liking fat chicks… Really? That’s also a choice as they are more attracted to fat chicks, so a perference, or choice, is made. You think a chemical imbalance caused people to like fat chicks?
Are you really that ignorant Vlad? Yes, I wake up every morning and look at the post-it note on my night stand that says “Don’t forget: You like women!”
It’s not a choice made every morning when someone gets up, nor is it something they need to constantly remind themselves to continue doing. Once the choice is made, they stick by it. If they feel they’re failing with their choice, they will reevaluate other options and then make another choice. Same as any other problem solving process.
I don’t know about you but every choice I make doesn’t stick around for too long without it being “renewed” mentally.
Coffee today? Sure. Keep living in NY? Fine. Keep all my cars? Of course.
Do I like ice-cream? Yeah I just do. I don’t chose to like it, but I don’t like some flavors. Nobody taught me not to like those flavors, society didn’t tell me not do so. I tried it and didn’t like it. Its a preference thats preset in me somewhere.
Who have you met that said they chose to be gay? Go to the lesbian night on union street and ask around there, see what they say.
Tomorrow I will wake up and stop liking cars. I swear.
You know how women become hornier depending on their cycles? Do they chose it? No it’s chemicals, just like a drug that affects your behavior.
Inject a male with enough female hormones and see how much more feminite he becomes in his actions.
Lets call them “butt buddies” instead
You know what if this choice thing works, it’s genius.
I will start looking at ugly girls and chose to like them and prefer them.
I will wake up each moning and chose not to like cars, speeding or anything automotive.
And I will chose to love broccoli and water as my primary meal to lose weight.
After all, it’s that easy to chose what you like.
I’ll report back.
So because of my chemical structuring, I like cars, video games, guns, and such? Interesting.
Using your logic right now, Vlad, we’re designed to do/like everything from the get-go.
You fail to acknowledge influence in our lives.
Example: You like cars. It can go back to you seeing a cool car on TV doing some stunt or crazy scene. So you develop your initial interest and choose to look into cars as it interests you. You meet new friends. Oh wow, they saw that same scene and they like cars too! So you and your friends like cars, thus increasing your interest in them. You influence each other, find more info about cars and such. So for example, you wake up tomorrow and decide to not like cars. You hang out with those friends, but they didn’t choose to not like cars that morning. So the friends start talking, and the inevitable comes up: cars. Because you don’t like cars, you may not provide too much input, but then something a friend says sticks out, and then you contribute. Though you chose not to like cars that morning, the choice you made several years ago along with influences along the way keep your interest in cars. It all goes back to a choice.
Not once did I EVER say that your chemical balance/imbalance does not have an effect on things you do. You want to think I said that, thus you fail to acknowledge my valid points.
I have seen results of tests in my Psych class where men were given female hormones and vice versa. Guess what though? The dudes didn’t start fucking each other after the test trial took place.
Well I sure hope not, dinner and a movie first.
Stop being so one sided and actually look into what I’m saying, Vlad. Some choices are not something you can instantly flip-flop with. Many are based on choices you made long ago and because they’ve stuck around so much you keep going with that initial choice.
holly fucking facepalm…
ITS GENETICS, then shaped by denial/choice after
animals just FUCk each other because its their instinct to do so… they werent put under peer pressure growing up and being told they should fuck and reproduce…
same goes with kids… yeah its there… but it doesnt change the fact humans are gay / straight by genetics…
and as far as you talking about kids 4-5 years old… ya cuz theydidnt grow any hair on their balls / vagina yet and dont even a sex drive so they dont know wtf they want… thats another reason i say its genetics/science
if a dude likes a fat chick its most likely because he cant get a better looking one, and is turned on by a fat chick over time because hes used to getting that pussy, its either that or none…
I know dudes who say they never liked skinny girls but thats a god damn lie
Thanks for your well thought out rebuttal.
So how are people influenced into homosexual “choice” and by who in countries where homo sexuality is punishable by death.
I’d stay the fuck away from that… You know as a logical choice.
Who is this Holly Facepalm you speak of? Is she single? Pics?
Until ANYONE here has a Ph.D. in genetics or psychology, my opinion based on actual research will not change.
Until you know what they’re thinking, you can’t really say what makes them think the way they do. But, being human, we will all fill in the blanks using our own mindset for the choices others make…
Well it doesn’t matter what they are thinking.
If it’s outside influences, tv, parents and groups of people it should be measurable and or noticed.
After all they can’t have their own preference without those things.
I never said influences were ALL of the reasons people make choices. I’m sorry I forgot to include that people can develop their own opinions (because after all, without opinions there would be no debating or war).
Also Vlad, going against what is normal and the urge to go against the grain is an influence just as much as anything else.
how about a degree in comon sense? you cant tell me the reason why people are either gay or straight is because of what they were told while growing up, and that going against the grain is why some people are influenced to be different in sexuality…
YA right, lets forget about the fact puberty exists and before you hit that you dont feel horny to fuck anything
im pretty fucking sure that if you are gay, you didnt just “decide” to start walking like a faggot with your wrist on your hip and squeek your voice out all crazy like…thats just part of the traits you have…
you ever see married dudes who have the same tendencies as gay dudes… like how they talk and move… i bet you those fuckers are gay too and either are in the closet… or in denial about it… but they are def gay and its genetics… no body is telling them to walk and talk that way