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Good man.
People are quick to blame Israel, but if you were ever in their shoes the biggest wtf look would be forever on your face. They don’t fight fair over there. (If there is such a thing as fair warfare).
Yeah thats not going to have a biased view.
Its like if I posted an Al Jezzera article.
http://thebulletin.us/articles/2009/01/05/news/world/doc495d829dbf3d9905455780.txt
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1874850,00.html
http://www.hometownlife.com/article/20090129/NEWS20/901290585
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/opinion/views/orl-ophirschson1509jan15,0,3723205.story
Good enough for you?
go ahead and school me, and if we really are doing this make sure u cite what you school me with
No, did you even read those articles or just do a quick google search.
Um no, there was this thing called the Ottoman Empire that ruled the region for a couple of hundred years prior to WWI.
What right did the UN have to create a nation on someone else’s land? Muslims lived there for hundreds of years, then all of a sudden European Jews start settling and its their home? Especially after the Allies promised self-determination to the Arabs for their assistance in WWI.
This conflict will never end until Israel recognizes it own role in the violence.
For starters, I would school you with this:
Your posts are painful to read. Seriously, what the hell is “work war 2” ??
its the internet, i use proper english when i am writing papers, not when im talking online because im not gettind graded or reviewed for nethign so it doesnt matter to me.
stroked uve got it down in a nutshell pretty much, and he says i have no idea when israel was created. really? i said i t was created shortly after WW II, and sure enough, the country recognized themselves in 1948
And I suppose you believe we should give America back to the native Indians? Oh wait they got to sell tax free cigs for years, so that’s fair.
So you compare what Israel has done or is doing to the Muslims as what America did to the Native Americans in the 19th century? That would be a fair comparison I guess but with completely different peoples and societal structures, I’m mean Zionists didn’t call Israel unexplored territory, or wild territory needing to be settled, there were people living there for hundreds of years, in cities. Remember this was part of a huge Empire prior to WWI.
Two wrongs don’t make a right.
Early roots:
Between the time of the Israelite kingdoms and the 7th-century Muslim conquests, the Land of Israel fell under Assyrian, Babylonian, Persian, Greek, Roman, Sassanian, and Byzantine rule.[26] Jewish presence in the region dwindled after the failure of the Bar Kokhba revolt against the Roman Empire in 132 CE and the resultant large-scale expulsion of Jews. In 628/9, the Byzantine Emperor Heraclius conducted a massacre and expulsion of the Jews, at which point the Jewish population probably reached its lowest point. Nevertheless, a continuous Jewish presence in the Land of Israel remained. Although the main Jewish population shifted from the Judea region to the Galilee,[27] the Mishnah and part of the Talmud, among Judaism’s most important religious texts, were composed in Israel during this period.[28] The Land of Israel was captured from the Byzantine Empire around 636 CE during the initial Muslim conquests. Control of the region transferred between the Umayyads,[29] Abbasids,[30] and Crusaders over the next six centuries, before falling in the hands of the Mamluk Sultanate, in 1260. In 1516, the Land of Israel became a part of the Ottoman Empire, which ruled the region until the 20th century.[31]
What right did the Nazis have to execute Jews? What right did the Palestinians have to kill Jews before 1948, when Israel was created? I could do this all day too.
Israel has always kept to itself, unless it was to defend herself. There was a war just as the country was forged, it wasn’t recognized by the neighboring countries and has been attacked countlessly since it’s inception. If the people in the region would stop bombing Israel, they would stop invading Gaza and the neighboring countries. It’s as simple as that.
It’s like if you see a bear out in the forest and don’t want it there because you’re 4-wheeling. What the hell do you think the bear will do if you piss it off? And why would you get mad at the bear for doing EXACTLY what you thought it would do? :picard:
How is a wild animal related to a civil society with a functioning government?
Israel has always kept to itself… except when they are slowly and deliberately settling on Palestinian land after demolishing their homes and terrorizing them out of the areas. What do the Nazis have to do with the Palestinian people and their hospitals, homes, children and infrastructure?
Stick that Wikipedia article in your ass since that is where your logic comes from.
I could have responded to him but I would just be repeating you so.
:tup: x2
And the last sentence of your Wiki search repeats what I said, which was that the region of Israel belonged to the Ottomans for hundreds of years.
In my opinion the Israel government can be classified as a terrorist organization here. For decades they have been intentionally trying to destroy the muslim community in the area by breaking up the community, patronizing the residents, bulldozing homes illegally, bombing cities, ect. They are trying to cause terror in the minds and hearts of the Islam community in the area.
Lets also not forget that Israel’s occupation of Palestine is and always has been an illegal one.
Let me shed some real clarity on what Israel intentions/policies are:
How many people in the US have heard of Dense Inert Metal Explosives (DIME).
In addition to White Phosphorus Israel has used Tungsten based DIME bombs against the PEOPLE of Palestine.
This is some SERIOUSLY fucked up and LETHAL shit:
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=5648
This is a Genocide weapon and will kill and severely sicken this and the next generation of Palestinians.
This is unforgivable and goes far beyond disgusting.
This shit is partly responsible for “Gulf War Syndrome” and is killing American soldiers…slowly. The US government will never directly admit this.
This is certainly WAR CRIME material
your views are totally distorted. Israel and palestine have always fought over the gaza strip because each of their gods “promised it to them” and we had to step in and take israels side. I wont go intot he reasons kuz i will just get flamed. Now, just because israel was created in late 1947 doesnt mean that there were not jews in the area fighting over the land. At the time tough, the ottoman empire was in control of that area and that small strip of land was not as important to them. Israels creation has caused so much destruction and death, and we supported it. And thre is no credible historian newhere who would tell u we didnt support it.
of course it is. but take a look at WHO sells them the materials and loans them money and sells them plans and contracts out engineers to build these weapons. If this death and destruction wasnt happeneing, the number one arms manufacturer in the world (us) wouldnt be making any money. Its one of the only industries left in which we produce a whole lot more then we consume from others. Its pretty damn recession proof if u ask me.
I did pick the first couple of links that came up because i was on my way out the door. If the soldier actually shot the kid then he should go to jail. I actually meant to comment on that but forgot to. I do however have many more links that talk about hamas using human shields fromnews agencies all over the world.
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20090131/OPINION04/901310308/1038/Opinion
Just a quick article, Hamas’s charter calls for the destruction of Israel. How can you sit down and negotiate peace with a fanatical enemy like that?
http://www.dailycollegian.com/editorial_opinion/isreal_s_victimization_continues-1.1318283
Good article from a student about the supposed victimization of Hamas and how the palestinians have rejected generous offers of land from Israel to form their own state. Also good statistics about casualty rates
Talks about how hamas uses the “dead baby” policy of shock and how it deliberately uses civilian areas to fire rockets from. Even Obama agrees with Israel in this article.
More about how Hamas and their terror tactics against Israel and Palestinians
More human shields!
Story about how Isreal is using recon pictures to prove Hamas was using schools and hospitals to launch rocket attacks
That one talked about both sides of the conflict.
Ill grant you that this one is an op-ed piece, but the facts that are in it remain.
In the mean time I will find the videos of Hamas moving rocket launchers right infront of schools.