^^ so whats the difference? It’s doesnt say “under [christian] God”
no, but God /= god /= gods
eh… I could really care less either way. I doubt it’s going to change anytime soon. I have better things to bitch about lol 
Did you hear the one about the dyslexic agnostic? He doesn’t care whether or not there really is a dog…
:rimshot:
i try to spread my bitching around evenly. i dont discriminate.
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Newman I’m surprised you didn’t know “under god” was added. The fact that it was added it was really pisses me off about people crying that it needs to stay. It doesn’t need to stay. It serves no purpose and obviously upsets people. Get rid of “under god”. Problem solved. Why is it that christians/ catholics say it’s no big deal for others to just say it or not, but freak the fuck out when it’s suggested that the saying be removed all together. Believe whatever you want, but keep your religion out of my life.
If it was “under Allah” I bet those christians (lol christian) they would be pretty upset. Or “under Buddha” …
just stop saying the pledge and have a moment of silence.
eh, i really don’t know a ton of historical data. i am just retardedly anti religion because it isnt real. well… the idea of religion is real, but everything it is based upon is a load of crap.
did saying “one nation under god” or touching a dollar bill with the words “in god we trust” really screw you guys up that bad? :lol:
damn :lol: :lol:
if you dont believe in god, when why do you even care? I dont get it
im so sin filled that it hurts to touch the money…
got me there jan. I apologize.
The Original 1892 Wording and Flag Salute Ritual of the Pledge:
The original words and accompanying ritual of the Pledge of Allegiance was presented in the September 8th, 1892, issue of The Youth’s Companion, a popular weekly magazine published in Boston.
Its September 8th issue had the following announcement: “when the Superintendents of Education, last February, accepted The Companion’s plan for this national Public School celebration, they instructed their Executive Committee to prepare an Official Programme of exercises for the Day, uniform for every school…Let every pupil and friend of the Schools who reads The Companion, at once present personally the following programme to the Teachers, Superintendents, School Boards, and Newspapers in the towns and cities in which they reside.”
This “Official Programme” for the “National Columbus Public Schools Celebration of October 21, 1892” was a complete patriotic program for the nations’s public schools’ celebration. Francis J. Bellamy prepared its two page “Official Programme”:
- Reading of the President’s Proclamation by the Master of Ceremonies…
- Raising of the Flag by the Veterans…
- Salute to the Flag by the Pupils:
“At a signal from the Principal the pupils, in ordered ranks, hands to the side, face the Flag. Another order is given; every pupil give the Flag the military salute -right hand lifted, palm downward, to a line with forehead close to it. Standing thus, all repeat together, slowly: ‘I pledge allegiance to my Flag and to the Republic for which it stands; one Nation, indivisible, with Libery and Justice for all.’ At the words, ‘to my flag,.’ the right hand is extended gracefully, palm upward, towards the Flag, and remains in this gesture until the end of the affirmation; whereupon all hands immediately drop to the side. Then, still standing as the instruments strike a cord, all will sing America- 'My Country, ‘tis of The’”
The 1923 and 1924 Modifications of the Wording of the Original Pledge:
The First National Flag Conference, held in Washington, June 14-15, 1923, which was attended by eighty delegates from patriotic societies, fraternal orders, civic bodies and other organizations, modified the Pledge to read: “I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.”
The Second National Flag Conference, held in Washington on Flag Day, June 14, 1924, further modified the Pledge to read as follows" “I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of American and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.”
The 1942 Modifications of the Flag salute Ritual of the Original Pledge:
On June 22, 1942, the US Congress officially approved the 1924 version of the Pledge and added it to the US Flag Code. In December, 1942, Congress substituted the present ritual of the right hand over the heart in place of the original straight right arm salute. Congress apparently was embarrassed by the similarity between the original Flag salute and the Nazi salute.
The 1954 Modification of the Wording of the 1924 Pledge:
The US Congress and the President officailly added “under God” to the Pledge on Flag Day, June 14, 1954. This version goes as follows, “I pledge allegiance to the of Flag to the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.”
Three minor variations were considered: 1. “One Nation under God,” 2. “One Nation, under God,” and 3. “One Nation indivisible under God.” Congress accepted the Library of Congress’s recommendation of variation #1. The Library gave the following reason for its recommendation: “Since the basic idea is a Nation founded on a belief in God, there would seem to be no reason for the comma after nation.”
it has been modified quite a bit since the original inception.
and since the majority have no quarrel with it, it likely won’t change.
The flag itself has been modified a couple times… no one cried about that. In the 50s they thought they needed to do it. Think it worked? Who cares…
We make new money all the time, why not just remove it and see if anyone complains about the pyramid… fuck pyramids… they aren’t american. They should put “The tuth is out there” on our money.
Fuck religion… a lot of people die because of it…
fuck beer too 
lol
(I hope the beers gods didnt see me type that)
they did… and they will get back at you @ the first party you attend
a lot die because of cars. yet here we are?
the children don’t have to say anything if they don’t want to. if anything, it should be to say the god/gods/goats of your choice - the atheists, who believe in nothing, can say nothing.
people kill because of religion. people don’t intentionally kill because of cars (haha, well not as frequently). you made a shitty analogy.
end result is the same. point is valid.
germs make you sick. germs should not be eliminated however, because drinking beer (apparently a good thing) can also make you sick.
:lol: okay, point made.