Innovative Tuning does 674 whp on pump gas with Magnus V5 Manifold

This customer Evo 8 made 489 whp the way it came in. In two pulls with some major fuel adjustments it picked up over 70 whp so it was clear it just really needed a retune. We retuned the car on the street for better drivability, startup, fuel economy etc. as we do and then brought it to the dyno at Magnus to see what our tuning had gained.

It made more with SAE correction on, but in order to be as “honest” as possible with the results correction was turned off for all pulls. It made 623 whp, 516 torque at the same boost the car came to us with, a very solid gain from tuning. We’re good, but obviously we’re not magicians…the tune just really needed some work.

The customer wants a good amount of power and wants the car to last so what better way to make more power at less boost than to try Magnus’s new version 5 cast intake manifold. It went on the car and I added a bunch of fuel to the AEM mapping for the first pull just to be safe. Sure enough it made power even with pretty rich AFRs and the boost was 1 psi lower than on the stock manifold. The MBC wasn’t adjusted…the boost just went down a pound.

A few pulls later I got the AFR leaned out back to where it was on the stock manifold pull for a good comparison run. With the boost still 1 psi lower, the Magnus manifold definitely made some jam. You can see up top the gain was over 70 whp and it outperfoms the stock manifold just about everywhere. There was no low end loss as seen on some other designs, only gains. Ignition timing and the boost controller were not adjusted the whole time the car was on the dyno.

On the street the transient boost response is quicker with the new manifold. I don’t know how else to describe it, but the power delivery also feels smoother. The cast manifold is a sexy looking piece of hardware, but I wanted to see results too and this manifold definitely works…really well.

Peak power with the Magnus manifold on was 674 whp, 529 torque, again with correction off. It was about 700 whp with SAE correction on. It has more in it, but the boost will be backed off as per customer request so there was no sense pushing it. Frankly I agree with him that you don’t need this kind of power all the time on the street. Of course if he changes his mind…now he has the option. :slight_smile:

This car is running on 93 octane with meth injection.
2.3L Brian Crower stroker kit, 272 cams, T67, AEM EMS, catless 3" exhaust, 1250cc injectors, dual walbros, etc.

I have been checking fuel economy as well and I was happy to see it was over 20 MPG in mixed driving. In 225 miles I went from our shop to Toronto including some tuning pulls on the street, all the dyno pulls, a street test after dyno pulls, and most of the trip back on one tank. The definitely sucks gas while in boost, as any car making this much power will, so it’s doing well on the big injectors off boost to still be over 20 MPG overall.

Dyno:

Video of dyno pulls and some of the manifold swap:
http://vimeo.com/2335738

Wow, I saw this sitting outside today, didn’t think it made that much power, damn!

Nice work!

sounds like a fast car :tup:

nice i love the detail!

With a t67 on a 2.3l engine upgraded cams with water/meth I hope so. I didn’t catch what boost this was at. Pump? might as well call it on race fuel running water/meth.(93 + water/meth would net around 110octane) Regardless I bet it cranks:)

You say that like it’s easy. :mamoru: How did you come up with 110 octane? You’d have to know how much methanol is being injected as well as how much gas is being injected to figure that out. You don’t know either for this car.

It’s 93 octane gas and if you use 113 octane for the meth, the mix changes throughout the pull as the amount of injector on time changes, but the average while at full boost is about 83% gas, 17% methanol which is about 96-97 octane net. Yes the meth definitely helps.

nice…

:tup:

Awesome, love the stretched tires :wink:

Not dissing your company in anyway just saying a t67 is a BIG turbo along with .3liters of displacment added not to mention water/meth. 600whp should be obtainable with that setup. Although I do not agree with you about it only netting 97??? According to companies that produce these kits weither it be a devils own or snowperformance kit with a 50/50 mix it should bump 93 up to around 110oct. Now thats according too the companies. The reality of it is many including a guy I know have run they’re setups on 100oct specific files and have been able to advance timing up too 6 degrees on those files with no timing pull and a good A/f ratio on 93 octane. Of course his water/meth controller was spraying based on the signal from the maf.

:jawdrop: NICE

And it is? The graph shows 650+ and Mike said with correction it was around 700whp… with 20mpg, I’d be pretty happy if my car comes out with anything near that.

i’ll be happy when it comes out!!! :zing:

No doubt they are great numbers I was just saying with a setup like that I’m not suprized as opposed to what cky said. Now the only point I’m argueing is for it to be considered on pump gas.

I meant that you can’t tell from it’s exterior looks that it would be making 700whp. Looks like any other evo with no wing and wheels.

people are never happy

no shit, the car made around 700wh. jesus

very nice job mike, i hope to work with you a bit on my car in the future :wink:

:tup: Mike you guys always do nice work.

RIGHHHTTTT you’ve made no point whatsoever big guy nor did you have anything constructive to say in your incoherant ramblings.

Please make me understand what I do not know about this setup 95LS1t

I will make this clear one last time I was saying that the numbers produced were great (thumbsup) but on that setup thats right where they should be…

gee, i dont know? maybe the compressor and exhaust a/r of the turbo? seeing as it makes a HUGE difference in the capabilities of the turbo.

the point of this thread was to show the quality of the manifold and the huge power difference it makes of stock, not the difference in how garbage the tune was before or how good it was after.