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ways around the import system?

you make me sick.

want to see what happens when people like you try to fuck the system and the rest of us who are patently waiting?

check this link out and see what happens, and what ihope happens to you you piece of trash.

perhaps you should check out the r34 that was seized in bc and sold off for 10000$ to some american, or the evo 4 thats up for sale, or the r33.

This problem http://forums.gtrcanada.com/viewtopic.php?t=7393 is because of people LIKE YOU. Innocent people getting screwed because people like you trying to cheat the system.

http://forums.gtrcanada.com/viewtopic.php?t=9583&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=customs

OH and perhaps you should read the rules on posting ILLEGAL trash in the froum.

hope customs finds you out. You deserve the fine and legal fee’s.

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No.
There are illegal ways, and grey area ways that are still illegal but not AS illegal. No matter what, if you have a car that’s newer than 15 years of age that came from outside of North America, and it’s registered for street use, SOMETHING illegal or shady has been done at SOME point.

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DIRECT QUOTE FROM THE HTA

“The Motor Vehicle Safety Act and Regulations require that all vehicles imported into Canada comply, at the time of importation, with the Canada Motor Vehicle Safety Standards in effect on the date the vehicle was manufactured. Vehicles manufactured for sale in countries other than Canada and the United States do not comply with the requirements of the Canada Motor Vehicle Safety Act, CANNOT be altered to comply and CANNOT be imported into Canada. The only exceptions to this rule are vehicles fifteen (15) years old or older as determined by the month and year in which the vehicle was manufactured and buses manufactured before January 1, 1971.”

So it says: Cars that are IMPORTED into Canada at the time of IMPORT must meet Canada Motor Vehicle Safety Standards (note SAFETY) for the year of the car.

Now this is where it gets a little tricky, and there is more than ONE way to read this next line. But this sentance is it’s OWN complete thought.

Then it goes on to state: Cars cannot be modified to meet these standards, so those that require modifications cannot enter the country. THEN it states the only exemption to THIS rule (which they are talking about the modifications) are cars older than 15 years of age to the month. So therefore cars 15 years of age ARE allowed into the country, as long as they are modified to meet canadian safety requirements of the year that the car was made.

don’t post this trash here anymore. It’s illegal, deal with it.

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hahah

i love it.

lucky, this guy is a baller, he obviously has connections. :roll:

serisouly tho, these guys are all right, no exceptions to the rule, end of story.

once your found out, your going to be in a heap of trouble, fate has a way of catching up with you.

“people just don’t get it, forged papers is a federal crime and you can get prison time for it, god I hope this finally shows some light to the people that claim they have legal loopholes, there aren’t any! this is proof, people FINALLY get caught and and truly hope customs does take a look into each container and cars coming”

“The problem with all this, is that it gives them a lot of ammunition to shut off the import of all foreign cars, because there is too much illegal stuff going on”

(section from the gtrc post lucky posted)

best of luck to you, imo your going to need it

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what’s the deal man?

you can’t wait another 2.5 years to get an S14 legally imported to Canada?

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woah… dude you serious have to chill…

what did i just say… i registed the car LEGALLY!!
meaning… I did not do anything ILLEGAL!!

and found out?? i dont care who finds out… i could get pulled over a million times over and i would just get the ticket if i broke the law.

they’re gaps within the system… if i found a hole in the system does that mean its illegal? no… it does not. I went to the MTO atleast 4 times trying to get the proper paper work required and spent close to 1000bux just to make it LEGAL… sure i could have just bought a wreck and stole the VIN… but i didnt want to go that route. like i said LEGALLY… so before you jump down my throat… and assume i did something illegal… i did not.

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explain exactly, step by step, this legal procedure.

I highly doubt if there was a way for somebody to make an imported car, less than 15 years of age LEGAL to drive in Canada, that somebody on SON would be the first to figure it out. Hahahahahaha.

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I agree with Chris, I’d like to see this outlined and what loop-holes you found.

May as well share your information…

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I’ve HEARD that if you strip the car in its place of origin, and send it over the border in pieces, you now have a “kit car”, you then put it all back together and have the car registered as a kit car, it will be legal to drive on the streets. I dont know how legit this actually is but it may be something to look into.

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now you guys understand… you just have to think outside the box…
and its not a “kit” car as kit cars already have vins and you need to purchase a “kit” to make it a kit car.

I really dont want to explain step by step procedures just cause it took me a lot of time and reading, researching etc etc… and if there were other S14s on the road the value of mine just went down a lot.

but i will tell you that the MTO assigned me a brand new VIN# and it starts off with the letter “R” and it wasnt easy… there was a lot of paper work needed to even get to that point… so im just going to leave it as that.

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“The Motor Vehicle Safety Act and Regulations require that all vehicles imported into Canada comply, at the time of importation, with the Canada Motor Vehicle Safety Standards in effect on the date the vehicle was manufactured. Vehicles manufactured for sale in countries other than Canada and the United States do not comply with the requirements of the Canada Motor Vehicle Safety Act, CANNOT be altered to comply and CANNOT be imported into Canada. The only exceptions to this rule are vehicles fifteen (15) years old or older as determined by the month and year in which the vehicle was manufactured and buses manufactured before January 1, 1971.”

OK then, the HTA is wrong, you’re right.
i’m sure you did you’re “homework”
and i’m sure you had a real “legit” importer aswell. seeing as you had to “make it legal” by your own words, show me where to loop hole is in the HTA requarding this issue…Oh wait there isnt.

i think you should ask around some of the local toronto forums about the kid with the r33 and what happened to him and his car after he tried to impress everyone with his spanky new illegal car.

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LOL…

if i had to make it legal… does that mean it’s legal?

If i had an expired plate sticker… and then went to the mto, renewed my plate so i could make it legal… did i just make it legal?

when your talking silvia/240sx vs skylines. there is a big difference there.
skylines were never made here… 240’s were however.

like i said nothing illegal was done… so just get over it.

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oh but it was,

do you know why the silvia is illegal?

have you looked into the 10km/h crash test?

there is a reason why the north american model comes with side-impact beams, beefier rebar, proper aming headlights.

Read the HTA,

The SILVIA was never sold in north-america, therfore it cannot be imported until 15 years have past, it cannot be made legal etc etc etc.

If you were so very correct as you belive you are, then why are there s14 silvia’s sitting in impound in bc? why are there failady z’s sitting in impound?

Customs is wrong and you are correct, i see.

Funny how, every person who says they’re illegal import is legal gives you the same story every time. “i went to to much trouble to tell you how i did it, it’s legal”

if it was so very legal, i doubt all the major canadian importers would be holding off from cars like the sti, the s14 silvia, all the honda products, all the toyota products and any of the other cars that people want that did not originally make canadian crash test standards.

Now to further show you that you are indeed incorrect. I came across a toyota tercel, a 91, we had it at work. The boss bought it from his sons buddy. It was the american model, the one with the automatic seatbelts. The car couldnot be registed in canada, it was on the riv list. But wait, we had the a 91 tercel in canada, the canadian model, it didnt have the auto seatbelts. Or how about the jetta wagons? or all the lotus elises that are pre 2005? are they legal now? They aren’t. They were not sold in canada, cannot be made legal, and are not elegable for import until 15 years old.

No matter how you think you got away with it, the car is still illegal. Hurray, you beat the system, but in doing so, you made customs crack down more on the legitimate imports. Give yourself a pat on the back. You really do deserve it.

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we all know you are just bs-ing… the very first digit in a real VIN is the country of origin. R = ?

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If your not going to tell us how you did it, then at least give us a picture of you and the car.

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I think an R on an ontario title is Rebuilt or something along those lines.

I’ll see if I can come up with anything more on this. Hold tight.

Is the S14 in question the one JDM Engineland was selling?

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thats the one i saw but i don’t think the guy bought that one,

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fate my friends

it has a way of catching up.

not everything is gold.

what goes up must come down.

it will in this case.

and pics of you with the car, even driving it on a cdn road, not just leaning on it, would suffice.

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there is a reason why the north american model comes with side-impact beams, beefier rebar, proper aming headlights.

Read the HTA,

The SILVIA was never sold in north-america, therfore it cannot be imported until 15 years have past, it cannot be made legal etc etc etc.

[quoted from above]

What does that have anything to do with being legal?
Are you telling me that R32’s? JDM anything that is over 15 years olf get refitting with beefier rebars? side impact bars? yah… i didnt think so…

You can kick and scream all you wish… but i dont really see what the big deal is? why are you making such an issue outta this?

the only thing that matters to me is that… when i get pulled over, cause im sure i will eventually… the cop will take my ownership and insurance… run it through there system and then come back to give me my ticket and be gone. thats it.

And if you were so overly concerned about people doing things illegal… why dont you start talking to everyone here that has an SR20 under the hood. Last time i checked, that was illegal unless there car was classified as a “hot rod” and insurance fully knowing.

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did you read a thing i wrote?

a car that WAS NEVER SOLD IN NORTH AMERICA IS NOT LEGAL to import until 15, it does not MEET canadain saftey standards and CANNOT be modified. Until 15 year to the date of manufacture.

The reason WHY the s14 silvia and the other JDM cars were not legal to begin with IS THE SAME reason as the EVO’s in the states. THEY DO NOT MEET canadain saftey standards and ARE NOT elegable for import until they are 15 years to the date of build. Did you read that this time? NOT LEGAL UNTIL 15 YEARS TO THE MONTH OF THE BUILD DATE, BECAUSE OF THOSE ISSUES.

Your car is NOT legal, you are only helping to further screw the innocent people who have cars in lock down in the ports in BC because customs has cracked down on imports.

as for the sr20 being illegal, it isnt, the hta says nothing about motor swaps or hot rod status, it’s all bull that people like you get fed and belive. The sr20 came in nissan products in northamerica anyways, so by way of your thinking it would be legal regaurdless.

Why am i getting so bent out of shape over this? Simple, innocent kids are getting screwed and cars are getting shipped back to japan and crushed because customs has decided that the manufacture date of a vehicle is not the date it was produced or first registered, but when the modifcations to the car were done, ie roll bar, intercooler etc. They are doing this because people LIKE YOU, were slipping cars like s14 silvia’s past customs, claiming them to be an older model made to look like a new model.

All you are doing by cheating the system is screwing those innocent kids even more.

And if you’re SO confident about how legal your car is, Give me your full name, i’ll get in touch with a contact of mine in customs in ottawa and we’ll see how “legal” your car really is.

Put up or shut up buddy.