Well I guess im a ricer too then. If your gonna compare apples to apples then do the 2.0 honda vs the 2.4 kia…I bet the Honda will STILL get better mileage and makes more power. And for the price, ummm HONDA! Even if its 3000 more the name Honda and its “track record” is WAY better than Kia…Now that Ive typed an entire paragraph saying the exact thing that EVERYONE on the planet knows (even the ppl at kia), we can continue to argue.