You know im really having a hard time on how to say this but i really think you guys are just plain silly. I mean seriousley the big cammed cars still make a shitton of tq hell i make over 400rwtq. Just when it come to up top they make alot more hp. But you guys know best right this is why so many people end up changing cam setups a ton of times. Thier are two type of people one wants the car to remain like stock ok get a small cam. Then their are peolpe who dont mind a little roughness and GO BIG or you are just stupid imo. But what do i know i like being faster then the rest anyhow. BTW MY CAMARO WITH SAID UNDRIVABLE CAM HAS BEEN MY DD FOR 3 YEARS GETS 16/23MPG DOSENT SEARCH FOR IDLE DOSENT BUCK NO ISSUES BUT I MUST JUST BE LUCKY.