mazda speed 3

Screw Canada, they can import so many crazy cars anyway (Lancia Delta Integrale helllooo), I’d just forget about their Market. Mazda might sell 50 total there anyway.

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The engine platform is also going through some growing pains. There was a huge uproar about powerloss in the engine when using 91 octane fuel and many cases even on 93 octane fuel.

The MS6 uses the same MZR platform as the 3. Looks like mazda is playing horsepower games again…

OOPS we tuned the engine on the verge of explosion… lets recall it and flash in a map that is more conservative and still advertise the car with the pre-flash rating…

http://forum.mazda6club.com/index.php?showtopic=58096&hl=powerloss

http://forum.mazda6club.com/index.php?showtopic=62495

http://forum.mazda6club.com/index.php?showtopic=51366

http://forum.mazda6club.com/index.php?showtopic=60749&hl=powerloss+issue

Some have even resorted to using race gas to get the car to run right…

http://forum.mazda6club.com/index.php?showtopic=43875&hl=race+gas

It says it right on the mazda site

“† Use of gasoline lower than 93 octane can decrease performance and peak horsepower.”

sucks for people in cali or the midwest…

so from what I gather people that are posting are people that just bought their car and the dealer put low octan gas in it and it runs poorly. so run 92 or 93 and you should be fine.

Thats what they originally thought… But there are powerloss problems with those running 93 octane. Nobody has actually proven that the dealer filled up with 87 octane.

The powerloss problems were so prevelant that Mazda came out with a new ECU reflash which owners are now complaining is less performance oriented than the original flash.

In a few posts some owners have resorted to using race gas.

Additionally the problem was published in Road in Track where during a comparison test using 91 octane cali fuel. The car fell flat on its face.

actually the answer to that is simple. name one non FWD platform with those numbers that are even in the ballpark pricewise. the only thing that comes to mind is the WRX which is short 40 hp and 55 tq and loses much more of its power to the drivetrain. its not like the 70’s where a young adult could afford a powerful RWD muscle car. the affordable “muscle cars” of the modern era have become small, lightweight and nimble FWD econoboxes. you can even see the changing of trends in drag racing. shit would you ever have expected to see a FWD car run in the low 7’s and trap 200+ mph? the big displacement RWD cars of today have shot up to the $30,000+ range and are not affordable for most young adults.