okay i don’t just punch it considering i know how to control my throttle, try rolling into it to get traction go ahead. Then when you break em loose anyways you can shut your mouth(i’ll let ya drive the POS). And if you read what i said i didn’t say turbo used them. I said ask turbo about my r2’s. I beat him three times out of the hole with my beat ass r2’s. With the street tires Chuck’s TBSS becomes a problem because all it does is spin. I am only making about 400hp/400tq. You don’t have to try and demean people because you think you know everything. We do know how to drive our vehicles contrary to what you may think. We do understand different throttle inputs. Someone like you should have known the r2’s are roadcourse based tires, maybe you could hvae gathered that i turn like a dickhead in my car also. Last i checked turning wasn’t simply an on/off. :bloated: