The part of this argument that always confuses me is this. The only reason that these animals exist, is to feed other animals. If they weren’t food, they wouldn’t be bred in quantities destined to be turned in to yummy food stuffs. So why does it matter if they die, if they weren’t going to be around in the first place?
If you have such a hard time eating something with a face, why do you draw the line at plants, are they too not alive?
I saw that video or one like it years ago on TV in a documentary.
It is the most disturbing thing I have ever seen and wish I had never watched it.
The first part of this argument could be paralleled to only having kids to make them into slaves. It’s no big deal, because if you didn’t make them, then they wouldn’t be around to be slaves.
There are also very obvious biological differences between plants and animals, one of them being the ability to feel pain/suffer.
That is a bit of a stretch, but I’d do it if I could.
There are also very obvious biological differences between plants and animals, one of them being the ability to feel pain/suffer.
Who says plants don’t feel pain?
God wants us to eat animals, if he didn’t he wouldn’t have given us incisors and the ability to digest flesh, we would have had a mouth full of molars and 4 cavity stomachs.
IDK, scientists?
I can easily demonstrate to you that an animal feels pain. If you can demonstrate that a plant feels pain, I’ll consider your argument.
Sure they can. Ever played music to a plant and had it grow better?
Many plants react to their surroundings to either improve their chances of survival.
Recent studies have shown that many plants have rudimentary nerve structures allowing them feel pain, sense danger and even signaling other plants. A sense of touch is known in over 1,000 plant varieties.
Just yesterday, my 2 y/o son said he wants to go to my work and work.
When I asked him what he would do here for money, he said “squirt everyone with his squirt gun.”
How can I get that onto a resume? I’m also not sure what he meant by squirt gun if you know what I mean.
Back on topic, If plants had feelings, we would still eat them because they don’t bite back 
Your problem is you’re assuming God exists. It doesn’t.
I normally stay out of these types of conversations. Morality, like religion and politics, is a very gray subject. But sometimes I’m very intrigued at how someone determines where to draw their line.
So a form of lives ability to sense touch is what you use to determine whether it should live or die? So basically your saying, to you the sense of touch is more significant than life or death?
this is what you get when you piss-off plants :ohnoes:
I do not think a plant has the neurology to sense fear. That’s why I draw my line there.
Newman, I agree with you on the whole plants thing. Do you also agree that fish don’t sense fear/pain/ or death?
I am fairly certain that a fish can feel pain.
I think the reason that “vegetarians” can justify eating seafood is that it’s frequently harvested, not bred with the sole intent of slaughter.
I know people who consider themselves vegan, but will eat fish they caught or deer they shot, because that’s more along the line that nature intended it to be. The deer was out living it’s life until it was killed by a predator.
The deer was not brought up in captivity it’s whole life. It wasn’t born to die.
I don’t agree with this either, but I understand it.
How do you know? Was your lawyer unable to get in contact with him? 
Huge difference man. Plants have nerves to react to their surroundings so they can take enviormental cues to continue reproducing. They do not have any sort of brain to process these signals. You can hurt an animal and its brain will let the animal feel pain. If a plant is damaged it doesn’t “feel” it persay, but will react to recover from the damage.
It doesn’t feel pain for long before it ends up in my :beer2:
Its not like it is being slowly tortured. Even then, it doesn’t have a soul. God said that we have dominion over the animals of this earth.
Gotta love picking and choosing.
I don’t see how it is any different eating a cow that is raised on a farm vs. eating fish dragged out of the sea en mass and brought back to land on a boat on ice with 90,000 of their friends.
Plenty of fish people consume these days is farm raised anyway.
Frankly, though, you do have to love picking and choosing. As long as they’re not condemning any else’s views, that’s what makes us all different.
As stated, though, I don’t share these views.
Vegan’s always flaunt their views. “Man, I can’t believe this place, I’m Vegan” blah blah blah.
Always talking about how vegan they are. Just shut up, I walk around talking about how much I love being a carnivore…