need an engineer's opinion

ok so im considering turning the 900 i just picked up into a streetfighter and i want to shorten the tail if i do.

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/originalsin1087/DSC01115.jpg

what im thinking is just cut the current subframe and shortening each member then welding back together, as drawn in the pic below. obviosuly i would have it professionally welded.

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/originalsin1087/idea.jpg

but does this seem safe? thats my main concern

another idea was just hacking the rear right off and welding another brace in to connect the gap between the upper and lower

Looks ok to me with a good crossmember at the end. How are you going to mount the 12 oclock bar though if you cut the subframe off?

im not building it to stunt

im also trying to think of a way to make a little tail light housing that mounts above the seat a bit

if i dont do that the light will go below the back of the seat and the back of the seat would be a straight drop to the rear hugger im going to put on

I am not an engineer.

However.

Based on the fact that the material there is used to support the weight of 2 people at that distance from where it is bolted…I would assume that if the piece you make mimics the current design but is shrunk in scale to fit the single seat it should work fine. It would then only have to support one persons weight and you are using the same material with the current material dimensions.

if you are building that streetfighter like you showed me that is awesome.

I’m not an engineer.

However.

I would like to see a pic of the whole bike to see if it will still look proportionate

dirt/water/rubber spray off the rear tire?

http://www.rrzone.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=163&d=1152863343

wrd, don beat me to it.

my idea is a bit different.
a bit diff paint scheme
keeping the clip ons
using an f4i guage cluster
different exhaust
have mirrors and front signals

one more pic

http://k53.pbase.com/v3/95/185295/1/46301224.BR_0167.jpg

You wanna just buy your old bike back :stuck_out_tongue:

lol nope. this will way more rad than that

IMO, it looks fine. If you keep the geometry and materials the same, you will be able to support even more weight then originally designed, because the cantilever will have been shortened.

that will support you just fine. I would recommend that you tell the welder that this is structural. I dunno what alloy that is but I would stress relieve the weld if possible.

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lol nope. this will way more rad than that

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You would say that.

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IMO, it looks fine. If you keep the geometry and materials the same, you will be able to support even more weight then originally designed, because the cantilever will have been shortened.

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That’s what I was thinking.

I don’t see why it wouldn’t work ok… although I’d have a hard time cutting up a fairly new bike to reduce the seat length

the bike is 10yrs old…

but im thinking i may fab up a 2nd short subframe, rather than hacking the stock one up

shit, in that case, go for it

if you don’t like it, you can just revert back :tup:

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I am not an engineer.

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thank God! :wink:

no problem with that change, I would move the plate down towards the center more if that is possible. it would actually be stronger. Also make sure there is enough bracing between the sides to keep the side to side movement down.

so 2 be an engineer 56 credit hours left. ~1 year

Although the idea of cutting anything structural on a sportbike makes me want to scream “Fuck no you hockey helmet short bus retard!” I don’t really see any problem with that. It’s just supporting the seat right? No suspension attachment points or anything else like that?

only suspension part that mounts to it is the rear shock remote res. or w/e and that just mounted with a small bracket that can be replicated. i think what i may do is keep the top member and make new, shorter lower ones.

but yea its just the seat and the person welding it knows the application and will most likely be getting the bike as a whole so there are no fitment issues