Oh also active aero usually breaks on the vr4s
Silly downforce adjusters… =p
I had a bunch of 3k’s (I sold this one to Jon). AS long as you know how to do maint. and fix shit that will go wrong on these cars, its no big deal. When I sold my VR4, shit always broke (heavily modified though :)) but they are a fun car to have. Here an old pic of the 99.
some more viewing pleasure. make that powaaa
^^^ Hot car, but damn how’d that happen?
Twin GT37r set up, everything built besided the tranny. Did a small launch, i knew that was going to happen eventually so i had a spare in my garage for when it did lol. Well this thing is long gone now but would i do it again… YES
And just because I know someone is going to say “why does it say GTO in the engine bay”, its called the GTO in japan but for obvious reasons that name had to be changed in the states to 3000gt
edit did you ever make it to the track with that setup? or even a pass without a launch? what kinda power was it making, twin gt37’s should move pretty good
twin gt37’s with :tspry: OMG
my piece of advice, make sure the transfer case is a 25-spline, not a 17-spline.
Ive had a friend break three 17-spline output shafts.
C’mon guy, supercars don’t weigh 4000lbs with driver and come in FWD.
And that’s a pretty bold statement. You think they look better than an NSX-R? FD RX-7? R34 GTR?
…buuut back on topic, every time I see a 3000GT from a distance I think it could be a cool car, then up close it’s just a normal '90s teenager car. If it’s your first “sports car” and you’re 16 then alright.
As far as modding goes… a 2-ton platform is probably not the best.
edit: I agree with “every car has it’s quirks.” Buying an old turbo’d car will never be reliable like an N/A car, no matter the maker or motor. I don’t think 3000GTs have any more or less issues than any other turbo’d car from the '90s.
You have valid points. The 3000GT was considered to be a Japanese Supercar though… as was the 300ZX… another fat pig of a car.
The FD RX-7 is not that attractive, it was an attractive platform which made the cosmetics more of an after thought. I’m biased, I’m not going to lie. An LS1 RX-7 is far more attractive than a Rotary RX-7… thats what I’m getting at.
That 2 tons felt great around turns though.
best looking supercar back then among the four comparable supercars(300z,supra,7,and vr4) and a tasteful modded one will look better than the majority of new cars roll out from the dealer today…and mabybe im a little biased.
I’m just saying you can’t throw around the term “japanese supercar” like it’s no big deal. I don’t see 3000GTs or 300zx setting lap records at tsukuba or competing in Super GT, for example.
and cosmetically?
1995 NSX
1994 RX7
1995 3000GT VR4
One of these screams “I’m a teenager.” Which one is it? 
We need to compare 3000gts to cars in it’s class instead of cars above it’s class. 300zx, talon, eclipse, stealth (duh), etc
and FTR, it’s easy to say a 2-ton car felt great around turns until you drive a 2700lb rwd front-midengined car with stock adjustable toe, camber, caster and a .99 lateral G rating.
An LS1 RX-7 is far more attractive than a Rotary RX-7
I can see why non-enthusiasts are afraid of low production rotaries vs. big production v8s, and that could make it less appealing.
Why does it scream teenager? Because teenagers had posters of them on their walls… not RX-7s.
The VR-4 you posted looks as radical as the NSX…
Class? Why don’t you compare the sticker on a VR-4 to the Supra, 300zx, and RX-7 (The traditional Jap “supercars” )… and not try to compare it to the sticker of an $80k+ NSX…
This thread isn’t about RX-7s… and I know that might upset you, but to say that it isn’t in the same class as the RX-7… and comparing either of them to an NSX… you’re way off base.
You should get a hold of Car and Driver… and Motor Trend, and everyone else who was comparing the big 4 … VR-4, 300zx, Supra, RX-7. As much as you don’t want to believe it, they were and still are, in the same class.
Heh I just read through a few pages of walter tearing you up. You sure seem to talk a lot out of your element. This is no exception.
You’re trying to argue that the 3000GT is an incredible adult platform that can compete with any of the other “supercars?” Give me a break. If the OP’s friend is younger and wants to get into cars, the 3000GT is great for that.
I would love a pearl white 99 vr-4.
Yeah, the magazine has SUPERCAR in huge letters written across it to attest to the respective cars chassis and handling characteristics. Definitely not to grab attention and make bank.
CORVETTE KILLER!!!
I guess this means no corvette can ever be better than GTR!!
We’re really going to base this argument on magazine covers?
So you’re arguing that the VR-4 is not considered a Japanese Supercar… and you’ve been proven wrong on many levels. There is a book and a magazine posted in this thread that say otherwise… but you refuse to acknowledge it.
You’re trying to say the RX-7 is superior ( but this thread is about VR-4s ) and nobody cares what you have to say about a car you know nothing about ( the VR-4/Stealth ) in question. I understand you have a right to your opinion, but keep it to yourself.
This “kid” is probably a teenager, and would probably enjoy a 3000GT in the turbo variety. He is not an enthusiast… or he wouldn’t be asking these questions. State facts… or at least warn the guy that you’re spweing opinions and not fact. This is Gen-Auto, not OT.
And then you’re siding with walter on anything… again, you fail. :banghead:
Hi, my name is Jack. I don’t understand the difference between a car performing as a supercar, and a car being marketed as a supercar.
How many of the above cars have you driven? Or is your comparison to the 3000GT baseless? I happen to know there isn’t a single “supercar” in Akron. There’s an old black viper somewhere off the five corners. And on “cruisenight” there’s a lot of miserable looking mustang owners who sit in lawn chairs by their fat miserable wives. So where have you driven all these cars you’re comparing the 3000GT too?
facts: the 3000GT VR-4 weighs 3800lbs, pulls .87gs, and sells for an average of $6500 today.
Marketed as a supercar… ? Duh? Sorry it doesn’t pass your checklist of things that are required to be a “supercar” … which is why I don’t care what your opinion actually is, I’m just clarifying for the OP.
That same guy with the black viper… also had a red NSX. He is a friend of mine. Not impressed. That car is just a panty dropper for him.
You know nothing about Akron if you’re thinking there aren’t any nice cars here and that the best we have to offer is an old Viper. You know we have a reservation with several millionares on it right? You didn’t know that I’m actually related to the owners of one of the more successful smoke shops did you? I’m also related to 2 other millionares, both of which own and have owned several cars over 200k.
I’ve driven 2 fine examples of the RX-7, both of which had less than 30k on them and both of which were small and lame. I’ve driven a couple 300zxs… and they were similar in space/performance/comfort to the 3000. I’ve driven several 3000s… and they were all pretty much the same.
You suck so bad for shitting up this guys thread.
If you can’t get over the fact that this guy is interested in a car that isn’t an RX-7 … and that maybe there are a bunch of guys out there who actually enjoy something that doesn’t look like a miata… and you can’t come in here with any facts or experience, then you need to leave. For the OPs sake.
I’ll just call you out on this one -
What makes a supercar, so I can point you to one in Akron. I know of a handful. Living in Akron, and never leaving Akron, are 2 different things.
Waiting for Dan to post. I think his response will be interesting.